posted Tue, 08/17/2021 - 16:16
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+ 2 tren A totally destroying my sleep
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So about my 4th week on tren I can't seem to fall asleep unless I take 24 mg of melatonin a night. Which makes me sleep but it takes about 4-5 hours to kick in and it is segmented sleep broken up into 3-4 hour partials.
I am debating getting off but my gains have been so incredible I'm not sure what to do. I was planning to run it for 8 weeks.
I might try unisom along with my melatonin tonight....
Looking for suggestions.
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1-2 hour partial sleep here as well. Usually 2 sessions then I make coffee. Today is no different. 2-4 hours a night max, but I'm fresh the next day. But.... This isn't from Tren. This is my everyday. If it wasn't for weed I wouldn't sleep at all. Thank you military. Thank you warzone. Sigh. Makes Tren insomnia feel like a vacation from this. ;-)
I was putting myself through torture coming off a prescribed antipsychotic for sleep, it was throwing my diet off.. almost no willpower to consume that 1k cal at night anyway I went cold turkey , dropped ten pounds in them two weeks. Was running the tren alongside and didn’t sleep for three days. Yeah I was looking trim but with no sleep I was paranoid. Gotta keep my mental in check before my body I was learninf
I don't get paranoid when I cant sleep for days. Just a bit cranky. Military trains you to be kosher with sleep deprivation. It's stuck and never let loose. I haven't needed an alarm clock in almost 25 years. I have this anxiousness that doesn't let me sit still and makes me get up. I feel like I need to be doing something productive that's where my insomnia comes in. Those times I find something to do when I can't sleep or I try and learn something new. Turned it into a superpower instead of an ailment.
I just know for me anything after two days no sleep I cannot function
This is my big problem with tren. Add fatigue and you become unsociable and it amplifies the sides of tren (nervousness, impatience, intolerance of people noise).
Stop it is wiser at your 6th week.
The tren is excellent, I haven't used it for 4 years but I often think about it...
Try gaba, glycine before sleep... I hope it can help you
Regardless of the acting Esther I do get the insomnia to some degree, I always have seroquel on hand from a recent prescription for when it gets really bad. Id recommend Benadryl and melatonin before delving into the world of antipsychotics..
thats the thing with tren its such an amazing compound interms of effectiveness but after a certain point in can also hinder progress specially when it comes to sleep/recovery and most of all mental health etc...
i find it becomes unbearable at around the 6-8week mark terrible night sweats insomnia and reduced cardio which has a knock on effect all round and starts to actually decrease performance...
here is where i usually decide to stop the tren and run something else,this way u got the gains from the 6 weeks of tren but jump off at the right time to not take away your original intentions...
ive used tonnes of tren over more than a decade ive ran all sorts of low high doses etc.. and the main thing ive learnt is over the years tren takes its toll and eventually u realise that longevity and maximising performance and recovery should be priority over suffering with tren sides...
note tren is a mental health killer which compounds further and further with each cycle you do..
Cortisol mate.
AnonHad the exact same problem, I also had the "Tren Flu" about 24 hrs later. I guess the positive tio these negative side effects is that it is a tale-tale sign that it is a legit product. I had to break down and before bedtime, I would have a glass of wine or two with the ole lady. Im not much of a wine drinker, so I had to put ice in it to make it colder. But it really helped with my sleeping along with the melatonin. Like you, my gains went THRU the roof, so it was a difficult decision; glad I stuck it out. Hope you find some type of release my friend
BodybuilderZeppThe love hate relationship with Tren A. I get the exact same problem, but with Tren E I can sleep slightly better.
I would lower the tren if possible. You do not need a lot of this drug for it to shine. If that doesnt work then you could try other supplements like mentioned below by others. I personally like weed as it helps me to sleep and stay asleep. I also wake up like a zombie when taking melatonin.
If you arent planning already, I agree with others that next cycle you should try NPP and MAST. I like TREN except I find that with higher doses of TEST, that i get so many sides from it.
OGJuggernautWatch for dehydration if you choose to take doxylamine.
I have the same problem in the past so I replace tren with npp and masteron.
For me when i did tren cycle was wonderful drug. It made me calm and relaxed person. On tren i slept more, 9-11 hours. But deca or npp is the worst drug for me. Maybe you would be better using deca or npp.
AnonTren is far superior to any natural sleep aid.
24 mg of melatonin?! Damn that's insane.. I use 2mg and it helps me fall asleep quickly.. but for me I found sublingual melatonin way better than pills
Unison is just benadryl, same drug higher priced fyi
TricepatopsJust stop taking it. That is the best suggestion. I know the results are awesome on it but; is it worth it?
update: unisom not effective at all
Yeah the good stuff works as advertised. I have to pick to run Tren when I want to suffer out of the gym for gains in the gym. This compound is no joke. I couldn't imagine Tren sweats in a heatwave plus not being able to sleep would drive me crazy
I don’t like tren anyway. I get way more gains from NPP
Rustyhooker^^^^truth
Your one of the few that believe me.
RustyhookerSimple 600 test 300npp had me feeling pumped all day long. Gym routine....fugggeddabouttit.
Maybe just stop taking it? Maybe your health is more important then 5 pounds of muscle?
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RustyhookerHave you stopped carbs by 7 if sleep by 10? No coffee etc?
Trensomnia 101....wait til the voices start talking...
Rustyhookeri like how he replies on more drugs used but not the questions asked
Prime example of addictive personality disorder. But testosterone is safe? And tren only affects my sleep which rest is not important?
RustyhookerBingo
hes 5 9 at 260 pounds, hes a monster. or hes 20%bf or more taking tren.
Rustyhooker260 with tren voices screaming hulk smash ....oh yes, popcorn please....
I know everybody is different in terms of why they find sleeping on tren difficult, but the only time I can never fall asleep on it or wake up after 3 to 4 hours is if I am either hungry or thirsty. This rarely happens before bed as I stuff myself with food to keep the acid build up away from it, but it ALWAYS happens during the night. I'll wake up and literally cannot fall back asleep again until I've got up and eaten. Don't always think you will feel hungry either as often I don't - but I'll sit up for how ever long it takes to say get some toast, cheese, ice cream and protein shake into me. Often fruit juice too to be hydrated. Make sure you consume carbs and sugar also as this is often a big reason. I think this is a reason why a lot of guys have issues on it as they are also cutting and consuming very few carbs. Just try out this theory and make sure you are always full on it when going to bed and get up and eat in the night if you wake up. I never ever sleep straight through whilst on tren but often can when not on it.
OGJuggernautThis seems right. It was my experience, at least. Always to bed with a full belly.
so one advocates no carbs before bed and you say eat before bed, what is the real answer?
OGJuggernautThe real answer, for me, is feed while you sleep, no matter what and adjust your environment. Sleeping is a third of your day (when you recover and build.) Anybody here would think it absurd to go 8 hours awake and not eat. Same applies at night.
The advice against eating before bed is based on tren feeds off carbs like wildfire. You'll heat up, sweat, and have issues. (Like Press said, it also helps with night time reflux - tren burn.)
The second part, for me, is cool your bedroom WAY down. Like a legit 65 with fans blowing on me. Old house required a window unit. New, new house with good insulation and an oversized AC does the job just fine.
I tend to work in a dollars vs time mindstate - income or expenditure...with most things actually. If im spending the time, effort and money on something, im going to get the most out of it. You chose tren...good luck...i hope you find the right combination.
(Type of) food and temp are key.
If you are trying to get bigger and stronger eat before bed for sure so your body is never left without nutrients, if you are trying to lose fat or get into good shape probably drop the carbs. A lot drop the carbs I believe as they are trying to avoid night sweats.
yes I use it for bulking and strength, but I was deciding if it was an option to cut carbs before bed so I can sleep.
not that I'm asking how I should be dieting while doing a bulk lol.
AnonLook, that shit wakes my fat ass up every 3 hours minimum to eat my man. 25 mg a day or 75 a day, 100 eod or 150 eod it never made a difference for me besides 150 getting pinned all at once was a rough night lol but good damn it felt…..good?
RustyhookerDropping carbs to sleep proper isnt not eating. Big chick breast and big serving of broccoli. Vitamins and protein. Keep ya full til you wake up. First meal after waking load up carbs. Monster style
AnonYeah no lol I do that and at 1am I NEED cereal or I will die. It’s the tren beast, it feeds at night on innocent lucky charms.
It is the bringer of death for all sweets that dare lurk around at night in the kitchen.
I'm pretty sure you train for strength don't you so consume as much protein and carbs as you can at all times.
AnonThat depends on your goals while running tren
AnonMy exact experience as well. Sleep for a while, wake up and smash carbs and a shake, or sometimes I’m woken up by heartburn from satan himself, Tums and/or a protein shake knocks that out for a few hours. If it’s really bad I’ll use a 24 hour heartburn pill.
Its the worst when you wake up with acid in your throat from being laid flat on your back and you have to quickly sit up and burp it out LOL I always try fall asleep on my side to get round this. Damn strength gains on it are just too good thats the problem lol