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Fairly experienced on cycles but always stuck to basics. Looking for some insight on a good powerlifting cycle that isn’t too extreme. I am knowledgeable on cycling, just wanted to know what others are running for pure power, and i have to be aware of weight gains.
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Stick to the basics
@wrestler197 and @Toproll what are your weight divisions? I won't ask powerlifting organization because of privacy.
220 and 242. Those numbers are raw at 242
Look at ya. You got some raw strength on you.
Thank you, hopefully improve them a lot come April. Natural at the moment and putting up same pr numbers.
To me raw lifts are what I like most. All the other stuff gets too complicated.
I've competed at the 198 and 220 class. Morning weight usually between 216-220
Ok I see. The 198 division is one of the strongest pound for pound divisions in my opinion. I've seen alot of those guys out lift 220 div guys....many times. My ex training partner was one of them. He was smaller but strong.
Yeah its pretty well known in the community that the 181 amd 198 are the most competitive divisions for men
No doubt. And that's facts. My start was in the 181s.
181 if I remember correctly too, those guys are nuts. 242 weight class didn’t even have anything on those guys
I saw saw a few dudes pop blood vessels in their eyes. It was crazy.
Yep..I like the 181s and 198s better than I like the 220s. So yea that's true.
My powerlifting stack has almost always been test E/tren E/anadrol. For me personally, nothing brings my strength up more than anadrol, and as long as I donate blood every 3 months, I don't get the headaches. I usually run my test quite low, between 250-375/week, the tren between 300-500/week but have gone as high as 800. No noticeable difference. 400-500 seems to be my sweet spot. The anadrol I will start at 50mg/day the first 2 weeks and will up it to either 75 or 100 the following 3 weeks.
I am a weight class athlete as well and some might say that anadrol will make you gain too much weight. However I found that the appetite suppressing effects of the anadrol make it easier to keep my weight in check. Whenever I go on cycle, my bodyweight only goes up a couple lbs at most but my bench will routinely go from around 435 back up to 500 where it usually peaks. My physique will also completely transform. I've also never had any blood pressure issues. I check mine every other day and i've never seen anything higher than 144/88. Usually it's in the 120s or 130s
test/tren/anadrol = king of strength cycle in my opinion, if you can tolerate the sides.
Its a great cycle not disagreeing there, but man its tough to keep going on. When I ran it you purely have to remind yourself of the goal you are trying to achieve ED and that if you miss a dose of the anadrol or tren then your results will suffer accordingly. When I got my bloodwork after being on those 2 for a while it was absolutely shocking. If you guys cruise rather than PCT - what do you tend to run each month?
Man I can't do the anadrol...headache city. Never tried tren before. I've seen this amongst many guy's powerlifting cycles before.
Yeah, wouldn't feel comfortable throwing you protocols without knowing your starting point. Beyond asking you the obvious questions like weight, age, years lifting ect.
Bud I'll ask you like I ask everyone this lol - do you think there is 1 iota of truth to the fact that Haack just runs 300mg Test per week and 1 Adrol per day? You must of seen the transformation when he started running gear that took him from a muscular but still fairly small guy to this huge monster that at times also resembles a bodybuilder!
Dan Green has always been the one I’ve been curious about with his regimen outside of the weight room. He is a genetic freak.
He was one of the guys who I idolized before Haack, he just looked the absolute part on top of being strong. True mesomorph right there. Remember when he use to show up to bench press shows and put his feet horizontal as he had tore his quad, no leg drive and would still push mega numbers.
Absolute freak…
The truth is that is his cruise dose lol. Not peaking cycle dosing.
Lol not sure why these guys make claims like that when (1)..they look like they use way more...or (2) their strength indicates they are using more. At some point it becomes obvious, but hey they want to be believable lol. I get it. That's why it's kinda difficult to know who is being truthful sometimes.
But...I STILL LOVE powerlifting.
I think they either want to brag about how strong they are on such little dose. Like Arnold saying he only took like 100-200 mg of test and primo and 5mg of Dbol 3x a day.
Or they understand how impressionable and stupid today’s youth is, so they keep cycles very low. That way 16 yo Timmy doesn’t go out and do 500 test 500 tren first cycle out the gate thinking they’ll be Haack or Larry Wheels.
I really hope it’s the latter.
I can respect the latter reason for them not to speak the truth on their cycle because of idiots, but heck just give that reason, if indeed that is the reason. It hits home for me and some of the members on eroids know this, but I had a buddy of mine long ago who was reckless with gear and he paid the price for that. We were totally opposite using gear and I tried to warn him but the dude was wild. And Arnold and others guys do downplay their dosages for sure. That's why I said it's kinda difficult to know who is actually being truthful. Now there are a few top ex pro bodybuilders from overseas that are straight up with their past usage and I 100% believe them. I won't name names lol.
Lmfao - not thought of it like that
What cycles have you run in the past bud? Doses & Compounds ....
Test prop eod 100mg with dbol
Test E 500 mg week with anavar has been my staple,
Never gone over 650 test or 50mg anavar.
Dbol gave me horrible back pumps, where I couldn’t move.
Stats: 235, 30 years old, lifting for 15 years. Pretty lean
460 bench, 675 dead, 715 squat.
Sweet numbers! My best was at 23, 385 bench, 470x3 squat, and 520x3 deadlift. I was 230ish at 6’4.
Sucks to hear you have bad results on Dbol with the pumps. I agree with some of the majority about tren. If done right, you will lean out and get stronger.
Awesome numbers. I'd keep the test around 500mg no need to go much higher. I'd swap the var for masteron. Less strain on the liver forsure. My favorite thing to throw in was inj superdrol. My cycles were around 500-800 test, 300-400 masteron, 25-50mg inject superdrol day. I swapped everything to short esters like two weeks out. I threw in cardarine every third day with syntheselen/synthetine last week to cut and manage BP. Day of the meet I'd use Anadrol and test suspension. I stayed between 230-250 off season and competed around 198. Your stats are similar but everyone reacts differently. My last meet I used around 350 test/tren/masteron with similar orals. I adjusted the test and tren depending on how my body was tolerating the gear, calories and BP changes. Honestly every cycle is slightly different for me. I tend to be able to use less but also get more sides as I get older. It's really an experimental game. The back pumps were always to miserable for me to handle with deads.
So you are a Masteron fan also bud? You really think you can get the same benefits from it as anavar? I tried Superdrol inject back when labs first started making it and never actually got any benefit from it, the tablets I did but just wasn't able to tolerate them for more than 3 days at a time. A guy on here said running proviron really helped tolerate the Sdrol.
Two things I've found bad with inj superdrol is it makes you go hypo if your carb intake isn't high. It loves carbs, and the second thing is the acid reflux. That's always where my stopping point started. Superdrol is my favorite though. Instant strength, and always noticed a lot of aggression in the weight room. Which, for powerlifting is perfect. Yeah, masteron I can get a lot of strength. It's one of those injectables I can push much higher without sides. Any oral steroids just mess with my AST/ALT too much.
I tried some Masteron prop yesterday and I have to say I feel bloody incredible on the stuff! I tried another version years back but it must of been a bad one as I really didn't like the feeling of it. Is 300 to 400mg per week the general effective range for it as I haven't seen anyone go higher than that for strength gains? Oh I tell a lie, saw one guy on 700mg/wk and he said that was insane.
You lift more than me but I’m also not weak. When I was your age and running a Test/DHB/Var cycle I got up to a 485x3 squat at ~183 lbs at 6’. Wiry for sure lol. But it drastically improved my neural drive. I was bouncing between maintenance cals/deficit cals at the time.
Those are some Great numbers mate!! How tall are you out of interest?
I personally like Test prop, NPP and Dbol but I appreciate if you are not wanting to get heavier then its probably the worst cycle to run! lol Its probably a bit outdated now too but I guess I am just stuck in my ways and feel really good on it.
Trenbolone is extremely useful for getting stronger and keeping weight down, but it depends on how well you tolerate the sides in training. If you get hampered breathing then it makes squats and deads much tougher and kinda unenjoyable - its great for bench though. If you kept it 300mg to 350mg/wk you may find it works well.
I have spoken to many guys lately who like adding masteron in, some gain some good strength on it. I know a guy who competes in 198 and benches 520 and he only runs around 300mg/wk but swears by it. EQ can help your joints a little if you need it but it may make you heavier due to the appetite increase and in all honesty is weak sauce compared to Deca for strength - but obv Deca will put weight on you again.
Orals you already pretty much have it nailed with 50mg Anavar, pretty much everyone seems to run this now. Superdrol is even better if you can tolerate it but can only really be run for 3 to 4 weeks because of the toxicity both to the liver and kidneys.
If you have never gone over 650 Test then you will find anything up to 1.5g will keep you getting stronger. 1g isn't hard to tolerate I find and will defo help. A lot of guys will take the anavar up to 100mg per day over time too to keep increasing things. 75mg is a good middle of the road that I see often.
You have other nasties like MTren and Halo but when I have dabbled with them they make me feel rough, everyone is different though and often you have to test the water for yourself to see if they help
Thank you for responding. And I am 6ft 1inch. Looking at test e (600-900) deca (300mg), Anavar 50-100 mg, and testing out 2 weeks of halo in middle of cycle to see how I tolerate. If I can handle it I will run that, the last two weeks before the meet.
As for weight, I don’t want to gain much so will have to really watch my diet
That will definately be effective mate for sure - I am interested to see how those changes affect your numbers too.
I compete in April, I’ll update on here how it goes. Thank you!