I hate it .. lol... I wouldn't use it if it was the last steriod on earth .... in addition the sides are .. well, hideous particularly what it does to you internally .. normally I tell people not to use it unless they are under a doctors supervision and can be monitored particularly your cholesterol levels and lipids ... winstrol will really do a number on you .. also, as it also pulls estrogen from the synovial fluid in your joints it is also going to exacerbate any joint issues that you might have ... I lasted four weeks on a moderate dose of 20mg ... took months to get rid of the acne and months again to get my joints feeling better... my cholestrol .. that went to shit so bad I still haven't recovered