posted Wed, 11/22/2023 - 03:15
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+ 2 With consent, here are the results of long term crazy cycles
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A close friend of mine has shared with me his testing results and asked if I can make a post discussing some of his options. A little background story, he’s 37 did some physique shows and now pushed it too far to the point he has Cardiac issues. Here’s an example of a common prolonged cut cycle:
750 Sust
600 Tren e
100mg Anavar
150mg Winstrol
200 mcg t3
Clen 160mcg
For 6 months
Despite my warnings, he finds himself in this situation and is requesting what his options are. I highly opposed his methods but here we are and now I’m trying to find solutions to help him and I’m not even convinced he believes he’s on the verge of a heart attack. My questions are is this reversible ? Will he be able to at least go on trt? Thank you I’m advance.
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Oh damn, didn't know about the previous substance abuse...that's just extra wear and tear on cardiac muscle, add in all the B-1, 2 agonist stuff, AAS....bad bad combination long term.
And as far as hereditary...I mean maybe....hard to say with all the rest going on....but the damage is done with many culprits on the table as is.
What kinda prognosis are they giving...talk of valve replacement, transplant down road...?
DobermannSucks
Bite the bullet then and stop whats there to say.its either you live or die
I don’t understand what the debate is about on his end. I’ll do what I can to convince him but it may be futile at this point.
DobermannI am saying dont get on trt it may be fatal at this point.thats all i am saying
I agree
@Ghost I think I remember saying you knew a lot about medical stuff? I'm sorry if I'm mistaken.
Hope I can say this but yes he does have a medical background. He and I have discussed certain medical issues especially this one concerning cardiomyopathy. His buddy had same issue but from possible GH over usage if I'm not mistaken. He can clarify about his buddy.
Yeah high gh use can def do that
When it comes to Biology and the effects of Steroids both good and bad, without pissing anyone else off he's probably the most knowledable on here
Yeah I thought I remembered him being very knowledgable about health and the body so I tagged him cuz he can give some.valueable input. Even tho probably not much can be done at this point.
@Catalyst is knowledagble on the heart too.
Have commented on page 1.
Dude ran TREN E at Over half a gram for 6 months? I'd be so fucked up
200 micrograms of T3 sure didn't help.
Yep. I really think it was the orals that did him in.
Yeah orals for sure are gonna fuck shit up even if he ran it half that length but God damn man why. 9 weeks on tren E my nervous system is FUCKED. cortisol through the ozone just body stressed tf out. I hate this for this guy. This is where it gets to be like. Ok Im really looking at getting better or dying because of this
I agree. I only run 200/300 mgs of Tren e for 12 weeks and by the 10th week, I’m fried until months later. It definitely affects memory or grey matter in nerve cells. It’s not worth it despite my love for it. This is simply abuse on all forms
I think it was all the Clen plus the anabolics
I won’t debate that but I know guys personally who run oils higher year round and didn’t experience health issues like this.
Everyone that I know/knew that would just go from cycle to cycle is dead before 50 lost two friends in the last year. I'm just wondering would a maintenance dose of growth help this guy out at all or would that be even harder on the heart now?
Not sure if hgh is a good idea cuz that can cause enlargement of internal organs it's self but thats usually when you run high amounts. But I do see your thinking behind it running very low iu to just try to make him a little more healthy but I don't think it's a good idea. He should probably just do a low trt protocol because I doubt he will be able to regain his natural test after doing crazy cycles for a long time and I don't think trying clomid and nolvadex would be any good for his heart right now.
God bless this dude and anyone that goes through this. I still hold a certain fear/respect for AAS and dosing. This shit is real deal