+ 2 Why I stay away from Tren
I have been juicing for over two years now and have cycled going on 5 times. I have always stuck mainly with oil based test and light orals like turinabol and anavar. I ran a test e and tren e blend last year along with oral tren as a kicker. I had great results but the tren made me feel emotionless, like a lizard man. I already have a hard time with relationships and lovey dovey shit from my military background. I was a Marine for 12 years part of MSOT and I have been over seas and saw death numerous times. I have a hard time showing emotion as is, I was making progress until I ran the tren. The girl I was in a relationship with left me because of it. Tren made me withdraw from her and others. I just wanted to be left alone all the time. Has any one else felt like that on tren?
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We are all different and react differently to compounds. I'm on week 5 of my first tren cycle and I was scared as shit of it because of all the hype it gets online. Thank God things are going good and I only had mild sides the first few weeks (insomnia, night sweats, slight paranoia/anxiety) but nothing crazy and now I have almost zero sides.
You read things about people raging and becoming a emotional wreck and getting divorced and on and on. And I have a serious temper and tren has not made me rage or freak out or cause any emotional problems.
My point is we are all different and you have more problems than most because of you past and tren is probably not going to be the best for you if it makes you feel this way.
Thanks for serving bro and God bless!
Just wait til you come off it.
It's got you lifted now. Hard to feel bad when you feel so good.
My experience with it and Letro and other mind/mood altering compounds is to always be mindful that It's in me and it has the ability to change me and my mindset IF I LET IT.
Like "i know what you're doing, and Im not gonna let you" then find the high road.
What a way to learn better self control, ha. like learning to control your superpower actually lol.
FlexNinjaIt was and still is my honor to have served. Yeah I agree with you. That's why I stay away from mood altering compounds. IMO the insomnia is what did it for me. Laying awake and thinking too much.
BRO
I have PTSD and I want to be ALONE ALOT 0311
Tren is probably bringing that out.
How are you while your drunk?
It got to the point for me that I cant even have one beer or drink, and its sad. I enjoy craftsmanship.
How are you dealing with your PTSD? Are you holding down a job?
Talk to me devil
FlexNinjaHey Sumatra this is off the topic but what's with your oil injected steaks... lol. I gotta get that recipe brother.
FlexNinja8222 I got and get support from local meetings at the local VFW in my area. Its kinda like AA. I also see a doc once a month. As far as holding a job that's not a problem with the kind of work I do. I went to Chef school of all things a year after I got out. You can see why I post so many recipes on here. My family thought I was crazy when I chose that path. Besides pumpin iron cooking is a mellow for me. But yeah like you when I drank I drank to self destruct. Had to give it up.
Anontren gets me all twisted up angry..no need for it..even though tren should be respected,ive got no respect for the shit at all..im just a gym rat-fuk i need that shit for!
Nope, not me. Never understood the tren negativity, because in my case it's nothing but positive effects, just makes me bigger, stronger, and leaner. I've also found it makes me extraordinarily horny, but I've no problem with that
Hopefully my experience is the same. I feel like it would be. Me and my buddy split a batch of halo and it made him strong, hard, and an angry piece of shit. I got strong, hard, and stayed happy as a clam, zero mood change even in the gym. I won't be playing with tren for a long time though. Just don't need it.
Yeah wish I knew why it affects people so very differently. Wish we could actually study these compounds, I'm sure there is so much we could learn.. Damn laws though
FlexNinjaYeah like Walter White from breaking bad. If he was real.
I love Trenbolone. Nothing like shooting up some liquid gold before taking your morning shower, it's the perfect way to start your day.
Clenbuterol though... Yeah, that shit warps my mind ass backwards and makes me withdrawal from society. Trenbolone though, never had any negative things to say about. But like anything in life, things will affect everyone differently.
And as far as your PTSD bro, stay strong and definitely stay away from whatever it is that makes it worse, and affects personal relationships as well.
FlexNinjaThank you
I got the same effect as you from clen. Took one dose in the am. Low dose mind you. And it ruined the next 2 days for me. I was shaky, nervous, cramps in my feet and hamstrings that were totally crippling. I felt like I had zero confidence when I'm usually supremely confident in any situation. I didn't want to be around people. I was totally devoid of any emotion. It was terrible. Never again.
Sounds just like me brotha, I tried clen once I think I made 3 days. That shit is hot garbage!
Lol my last run earlier this month I only made three days as well at only 20mcg. Got the job done but it wasn't worth losing my composure over. I'm gonna go check out walmart for Bronkaid (ephedrine) and try ECA soon instead.
eca is the best stack for fat loss in my eyes. works wonders.
The new hydroxy elite cut is really great source of caffeine I got two bottles for 1 on the net.
shit has lasted months and I only takle them to replace coffee.
Green coffee in it makes it a excellent source of caff for me
RustyhookerI went fully introverted on tren. Im usually very outgoing. It was weird
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Good that you realized that and can talk about it, that's step one. A lot of guys would probably not see it and be in denial. Good for you.
Its amazing, and horribly horribly terrible, unless you are making a career out of your body i would never reccomend touching it.
FlexNinjaWhen I got out of the Marines 8 years ago I was a lean 215. I became an alcoholic because it numbed the stress and emotions I went through. I ate like a slob and got up to almost 400 lbs. Well a little over 3 years ago I quit drinking and got back on track fitness wise. After two years of training hard I dropped down to 250 but still had a high bf% so I tried tren e along with oral tren and test enan. The results were amazing but I paid a price.
Tren e in my opinion is much more mellow then tren a. Tren got the best of me and a relationship last year and I didn't realize until I was off it what kind of person it had turned me into. It's best to stay away from if you have to.
FlexNinjaMuch agreed. Good ole fashion test is what I stick with now. I fuck like a world champion when it kicks in.
Masternon is alot like tren without the sides lol
FlexNinjaI just started a cycle of Sust 250, Winstrol, and Anavar. Gonna run it for 12 weeks then take a break for about 5 months. My next cycle will include some Mast.
RustyhookerHope your not running orals 12 Weeks....
FlexNinjaNo just the Sust. That would thrash my liver and old joints. I should have been more clear. Gonna run the Winny and anavar for 6 weeks.
Why winny and var together? I dont know about you but winny makes my joints "lock" up. To the point that just everyday movment was a hassle
FlexNinjaA friend of mine at my gym told me they work well together. I know Anavar goes well with Sustanon but I haven't tried Winny yet. I was gonna wait until the last 6 week's to run em. I'm open to any opinions of course.
Anavar works well with almost anything if used as a finisher. You stated "my old joints" if you have joint issues already then I suggest to leave the winstrol alone. Their both dht derivatives so they can cause some hair loss if your predisposed to mpb. Winstrol would be a higher risk for this and if you take them together and start to have sides how would you determine which one is the culprit if you've never taken them before. Or have you? Im by far no expert I've just never heard of using those compounds in conjunction
FlexNinjaI'm gonna take your advice and stick with just anavar. That's not the first time someone told me Winny is harsh on the joints. I take animal flex because I have golfers elbow on the inside of my right elbow. Don't want it to get worse. I've ran anavar before and liked it.
Good choice!
Tren can get the best of you. Especially if you can't take a step back and realize that your mood is shit because of the tren not because you are really in a bad mood. If you get pissed or upset just take a second and reset, don't talk or you WILL say something you will regret. Especially with a woman, think, is it really going to be worth me trying to argue and prove my point? Or just brush it off and let her be right! It's all a mind game you are playing with yourself, you have to learn to not react but think first, how would a person not on tren handle the situation. Alright I'm done now lol. Most chill tren rant ever haha
FlexNinjaI'm a pretty aggressive and short tempered person without the tren but I'm able to keep it in check. But when I ran tren it was a different story. I took seroquel for insomnia but I needed something else to mellow me out.
Bro, I think it is the only really "psycho active" steroid in the whole lot. Besides mood changes and a bunch of other sides, I also get withdrawal symptoms from it like coming off pain killers and such - it's called "tren crash." Does everyone have problems with it? Of course not. Do a lot of folk? Yes, many. Sorry to hear you lost out on a relationship over a steroid drug.
ill add mibolerone and fluoxmesterone too that list, that shit send me as crazy as cat shit and loopier than froot loops.
TREN IS THE DEVIL
FlexNinjaWhat turned me onto it was an article I read about Barry Bonds. He ran tren and look what it did for him. Look at pics of him his rookie year with the Pirates, then look at his transformation throughout the years with the Giants. I've met Barry Bonds in person and he's a beast.
I'm sure I'll dip my toes in the tren waters someday. For me though I approach everything with caution. I'm running my first 19 nor now with fantastic results. Am I going to up my dose from 75mg eod NPP to 150mg? Absolutely not! Why should I with such good results now. So it may be quite awhile before I ever get to tren but I'm not ruling it out. If I do though with the first sign of complications I will bail. When/if I do it will be with short esters so bailing will be much easier. As far as being emotionless I've always been a bit detached. So I hope I don't go through the same thing as you did. If it has ill effects on you then there's no reason to go back. You've made the right choice if it's any conciliation. Your mental well being is as important as your physical well being. Solid relationships are important and we that value those will do whatever it takes to keep them. Thank you for sharing for it's another thing for me to watch out for when/if I do decide it's time to take that leap......
FlexNinjaThat's a wise decision if you do, sticking with the acetate version. I ran the enanthate. Another thing I recommend is at least two gallons of water a day. If you don't drink a shit ton of water your kidneys will hurt and your piss will look like orange crush soda.
Tink22What?
This is utter bullshit. Sorry but 2 gallons of watet at least or,,,,, orange crush soda?? This is wrong. I'm not saying don't drink 2 but Damn if your pee is like that you have other issues. Not tren. Kidneys hurt? Again other issues..... If this is true than me an many others should probably be dead. Speak truths please.
AnonI really considered negging this. OP showed class in his response. You on the other hand come off as an entitled 20 y/o who lives at home with mommy, men don't speak like that. In my experience tren caused me to dehydrate much easier and a greatly increased water intake was absolutely necessary - beyond 2 gallons. When I would wake up from a tren nap ( not like I could sleep all night ) I would drink a liter of water usually and piss would in fact be orange/rusty colored until that cleaned me out again.
Have some damn respect.
FlexNinja×2 Thank you sir
FlexNinjaThat's from my experience. If you were to talk to me like that in person you wouldn't like the outcome. Show a little respect.
Flex, Tren metabolites can turn your piss orange or rust colored. Does this happen to everybody? No. Is it from the Tren? Yes. Absolutely. Drink as much water as u can.
Tren makes me edgy and more impatient but I just tell myself "its from tren" and i get over it
hunteron20sYou gotta get it in check.when on tren just try garder to mellow out aggression saved for workouts and thats all ..it isnt to hard to find what makes you happy in life and pursue it
last time i ran tren i killed 3 ppl at breakfast with my spoon, then chewed my way out of jail......
Hahahahahaha!!