Popeboy takes a deep breathe, cracks his knuckles as he prepares for the lecture he is about to give A few months ago I got into a arguement on one of the forums here about using the right length needles for their injections. I had one guy say he uses the 5/8" needle's and got great results when I had a few other guys argue that there is no need to use any needle's longer than 1", I had my share of research under my belt at the time, for #1 I am the type of guy who has always been paranoid about fucking myself up from sticking a needle in the wrong place so before I ever would even concider to start using a drug that requires poking sharp objects in my body I prompted myself to learn as many details as I possibly could so if not just to get the most out of what Im paying for, it would also give me peace at mind that im not going to inject a foreign substance into a place that could really f#*k me up. #2 I am not a wealthy man, I am not even a decently well off man, my wife and I hustle are asses off just so our kids can go to school fresh as hell because they deserve it and not have to worry about sum punk ass rich kid running them in the ground because their shirt or maybe their shoes came from wal-mart or pay less shoes. So when I say Im in no position to waste a few hundred bucks on oil either I didnt get deep enough into my muscle or not even in my muscle at all trust me I promise you Ive done my research. People are so funny, I will see guys try to argue with me about this like they have so much more experience at this and a few days later I'll be in a different thread and see a post they made asking someone if theyve had a problem with the quality of a certain brand of oil they started using bitching about not seeing results and hadnt even been using the oil long enough for it to have got in their system yet. My problem with this is it was a simple single long ester cypionate that should have been researched long before it was ever place in the syringe not to mention just a few days earlier he posted on "help" thread a newby had wrote trying to get some facts together. The bad thing is 2 of these cats had a rep that was between 70-100 points. You might say that their rep really wasnt that high but in a newbys eyes 70-100 rep points seems high. I like debating just as much as the next guy but their's a time and place for it and unless you got your facts to prove your theory then you don't need to be giving out advice that could possible put someone in the hospital or even worse unless you have done your research!!!! If you need help understanding what exactly research is I googled "the definition of research" and pulled up the very 1st link which is websters definition:

Definition of RESEARCH

1: careful or diligent search
2: studious inquiry or examination; especially: investigation or experimentation aimed at the discovery and interpretation of facts, revision of accepted theories or laws in the light of new facts, or practical application of such new or revised theories or laws
3: the collecting of information about a particular subject

Ok Im not posting this to be a smart ass, I posted it because I went farther than doing my research, so far this cycle Ive ran 3 different brands of test prop (veyron, kalpa,) for 6weeks, first 4 weeks I was dosing EOD, I used a 1" needle for the 1st 2 weeks, the 2nd 2 weeks I used 1.5 " , No noticable strength gains, elavated bp, or more intense pumps except the times when I injected in my delts (which I always use 1" on my delts, nothing bigger, nothing smaller) during my 1st 2 weeks. During my 2nd 2 weeks libido spiked after my 2nd injection, pumps were almost violent and I was benching 20 lbs more than normally and at the same amount of rep/sets as I was doing the week before. Note: that I had been stuck benching the same amount for the past 5 months. I used a 6 point injection spot while I was doing this, I ran veyron on my left side and kalpa on right, I routine for injections were left quad, right quad, left glute, right glute, left delt, right delt. The two brands were very simalar in reslts, the veyron packed a lil more PIP. Normally I dont run injections in that order but I wanted to make sure I would be able to tell if the different brand might alter the end results. On the 5th week I started ed injections using the 1", I did notice my libido was not dropping, however even though the weight on my bench stayed the same, my reps dropped from a steady 8/3sets, to 6,4,4/3sets. Before I started week 6 I took 4 days w/o any injections, then started with the 1.5" needle (except delt days) 6 hours after 1st injection I was back up 8reps every 3 sets on bench. Ok I am not saying this is the best way to get 100% accurate scientific facts on which is the best to use, Im saying this was enough for me to not wanna hear someone talk shit just because they think they know it all. After going back to a 1.5" needle I can actually feel when the needle penatrates the muscle. Do you really wanna waste your oil because of your stubborness? Just remember there are men and women on here that are learning. If your ever in doubt, spent a little researching, google can be out best friend here