posted Wed, 04/24/2013 - 08:56
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Running out of TestE before 12 weeks, can you switch to P early?
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I am on week 8, running out of a 25ml bottle. Looking at what is left in the bottle I doubt it is going to make 8 more loads. I recently did add a 25ml bottle of Test P 100, is it okay to just transition to P a little early and in turn add an extra week of P?
Also should the P be done EOD or ED. I have seen enough posts on that to be plenty confused.
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RustyhookerFor Walter the newb.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/weight-of-ster...
Prop by WEIGHT is 80Mg/100. 100/day is 300 flat TOTAL MGS. 150eod is 300 flat TOTAL MGS. Which = 80Mg of TEST/Dy!
Test e is 70Mg/100Mg x 6 = 420/7 =60MG/DY
SO....test prop is 80/day
Test E is 60Mg/day (420/7)
Prop at 150eod = 240Mg of TEST WITHOUT ESTER
TEST E is 60 x 3 = 180Mg for thosr same 3 days.
Which one do you use?
waltryour right, i'm wrong.
best of luck to you in everything you do.
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to anyone reading, please disregard what i mention below.
RustyhookerIt's all learning. I wanna see you freakin huge and healthy. Not all bad sides and misearble..
Good luck and get huge!
Ahhhhh..... Run out of gear WTF.. thats a cardinal sin bro you should be fkn shot at dawn lol.... check out the pre/cycle protocol stickies before you cycle again... i should tear you a new rim for this noob fuck up but i cant be assed im too tired lmfaooooooooooooooo
lol, I am not out yet, I am looking at the bottle and seeing 6ml instead of 8 by my eye. Plus I know a few of my pins were a little heavy.
a prop taper is a nice way to finish a long ester cycle
WithdrawlYou sure can bud. A lot of guys like to end with Test P anyway so they can more accurately start their PCT since it clears out way faster than longer esters. EOD injections are fine with prop but ED is better. I've always done EOD for convenience and always see good results that way. 150mg EOD or 75mg ED will give you a little over 500mg a week. Just remember, prop builds up quickly so there will be an overlap period where you'll be getting a higher level of test because you'll have prop AND enanthate in your system at the same time.
Rustyhooker^^^^ yes! 150eod hits hard. And to the OP...no. Its dead n gone in 48hrs. So if you pin eod...its at 8am EOD. Not skipped etc. Fluctuations cause the bad sides to hit.
Prop is all bout exact timing.
Got ya. Thanks guys. Just so I am sure I understand. Seeing I am switching off from Test E I should only run 100 EOD because of the extra T already in my system or just blast the 150 and enjoy the ride?
RustyhookerI would wait 1 week from last pin then 150eod. Prop is faster than test e and will avoid a big spike. Basically so your not suddenly up at 800...to then dip.
I suppose if we really wanted to be smart asses couldn't you pin every 36 hours? I have never pinned in the evening so I have no idea if it would effect sleep. But I could see for instance day1 pin at 8am day two pin at 8pm, day four 8am again.... I could see it being a bit complicated but not impossible.
waltrhow much test e are you running a week?
if you want the same level of dosage count the test p for 48 hours and go from there, so if you wanted 500mg every day of the week, you'd have to do 500 every 3rd day
RustyhookerHUGELY WRONG!!
waltr500 is a not high according to this.
http://pct.befit4free.net/
i plugged 150 eod in and test levels (according to the site, over a 21 day cycle) never peak above 299.
however, if 300 were run eod the levels come closer to the 500 as a base level for test in the body.
you also have to consider with a newbie cycle 500 2x weekly, test levels are WAY higher than they would be running 150eod of prop by 8 weeks. prop DOES NOT COMPOUND the same way a long ester does.
If you plug is test e, 250 every 3rd and 4th day (twice weekly) the levels are similar to 500mg of prop every 3rd day, but test levels do tend to fluctuate a bit with every 3rd day pinning of test prop.
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read this as well,
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/test-prop-and-counting-...
RustyhookerDude....go back and re-read your arguments as wrll as reading my homie treads post. It's DEAD and GONE in 48hoyrs. Therefore.....YOU DO NOT USE 500 MILLIGRAMS EVERY THREE DAYS OF PROP.
PROP by WEIGHT is far greater thst test e by weight due to ESTERS! Do don't come on here telling some newb BS info.
Noone would EVER suggest 500/3 days of PROP!!!!!
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I normally do not go and look at peoples profiles, but I have not read what he is saying ANYWHERE around here by anyone that obviously knows what they are talking about.. After I looked I now see why.
RustyhookerUnfortunatley he's just started his very first cycle so hope he learns up FAST. Us old greybeards(vets) are still around helping folks run properly.
A normal kicker for a 600test cycle is 150eod. So is a normal taper. You'll feel that prop for sure if its good and do fine by it. Prop can pip dometimes but it's worth it in gains.
Get huge bro!
X2! I tapered at 100MG EOD and felt great!!
RustyhookerWalter suggested 500mgs e3d for the OP.
LMAO
I am running test 250x twice per week. (The standard noob cycle). So your saying 5ml every 3rd day? Man, that seems like a lot. Maybe I am misunderstanding. If that is the case maybe I would be further to just start the taper a week early if necessary.
waltrtest e has a half life of i believe 10.5 days, which means day 1 you inject 250mg, day 10.5 you have 125mg left of that 250. each day after you inject the test level in your body is slowly going down.
test p pretty much only stays in your system for 48 hours, so say you inject 1cc of 100mg/ml test prop, in 48 hours the amount still circulating in your body is gonna be so low it's basically not there. 5ccs seems like a lot to inject (i sure as fuck wouldn't do it in 1 shot) but it's not the cc's is the concentration of the compound taken into account also is the ester attached to the test molecule (propionate)
the advice i gave you is to keep your total test levels similar to what they have been so far running the test e, so you could do the whole 12 week cycle. if you want to just taper off early cause your out of the other gear that's fine, i've always heard of a 100mg eod taper for 2 weeks with e because that's how long it's gonna take for the test to get so low your gonna want to do pct anyway if your not gonna keep your levels higher. running an extra week of prop at a low dosage of 150mg isn't gonna do a whole lot, you have to take into account that right now at week 8 your probably sitting with about 700-800mg of test in you.
RustyhookerThat is not the half life of test e. Srry
Waltr, I was just reading your page, are you on your first cycle too?
waltri am indeed, running sustanon at 500 a week
You are on your first cycle and are giving advice on tapers and transitions? GTFO! Bro, I know you mean well, but leave the advice to people that have actually experienced it and KNOW what they are talking about. You started with Sus instead of Test like all the pro's here recommend, you should stop giving advice now.