posted Sat, 01/17/2015 - 12:29
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Hey guys I've been Mia for a while and this is my new account... Used to get mass specs done through angus , what happened to him? Can anyone here help me get a mass spec done?
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Who are the MODS?
Where did they come from?
What do you think MY primary goal as a mod is?
The thing that fuels conspiracy theories, is the conspiracy theorists.
IMO, the mods are guys just like me that have put in enough time here and deemed trustworthy by BFG and other mods.
I think the mods have good intentions, and want a smooth running board that connects people with good sources.
There was enough controversy surrounding Angus and his mass specs to make people wonder what happened to him. I know some mods thought he was completely unbiased, and others had little faith in the reliability of his tests.
He was tied up and is currently in the EROIDS van being beaten
"Beaten"
But, in the spirit of transparency, he's only being beaten until Ed finishes getting into his rubber body suit.
I don't know how much you remember, but I publicly called him out as a fraud. Starting with his faulty testing methods. He was using (or his boss was) an electrospray MS to test prouduct that was finished. Anyone who's done a little research on mass spectrometr testing knows that this test is nowhere near effective for the finished product. Only for a raw material. I didn't realize at the time that not only was angus turning a profit with his testing scheme , but he was corrupt as well. He was the man behind at least one popular source , he leaned on sources who he saw as competition. He played the game and a lot of you people around here bought into that whole mass spec thing. Angus did what he had to do to get by. Fine by me. But it's my job to call out and expose ANYONE trying to hurt the community , directly or indirectly causing any kind of rif is going to rouse my suspicions. I don't know where this conspiracy theory started , but it shows the level of ignorance some ppl have. People need to believe there is some crazy hidden agenda to make sense of the fact that we do not always share information with them. We do what we do and let as much info out as we can to keep you informed. But some things are just not safe to discuss. Anyone who thinks we are here to protect sources , is a simpleton and are seeing what they want to see regardless of truth.
From what I remember when I proved that Angus was a liar, moderators here where the only ones who were really reading everything I posted and checking my statements against Angus statements
At that time I was not very sure if Angus have some backing on this forum and I was surprised to see that moderators where really objective. Not kissing anyone ass just anyone who read my discussions with Angus can confirm what I say
I remember that Nitti told at some point to Angus who was giving very complicated answers to my questions "If you can not explain in a simple way then you alone are not understanding it"
Considering I work in R&D for a pharmaceutical firm, I think my opinion here is as experienced as you're going to get. The testing methods employed were incorrect and scientifically flawed.
That's a FACT, not opinion.
It is amazing that you have to explain this too people I mean if they literally just sat back and thought about it they would see mass spec's started off with good intentions and has turned into a source extortion racket (kinda like where blood work is starting to go sadly)the guy was going to every board offering his "services"....Does anyone realize how easy it would be for that guy to take "offers" in return for favorable Purity numbers I mean for real who here has enough training to be able to look at those sheets and without a shadow of doubt prove authenticity ....I once seen him post 100% pure anavar from a UGL with a not so good rep what a joke watching people fall for it...Not saying all of his testing was bullshit I do believe at one point he was doing a proper job but I also believe he had an agenda that I assumed most people had caught on to.
Imagine if he had a price list like
100% purity - $150
96% purity - $120
90% purity - 100
Etc
Etc
Lol it's totally possible.
Now just look for the sources who have good MS as proves that their products are good and you will know where not to order
LoL I think he was getting a lot more than 150$, mass spec's is code for extortion Imagine the money he could cost a source by saying its 40% pure or how much money a source would make when he post 97% pure tren/Test/Primo Etc Not to mention his "favorable" outcomes to a source he is more than close with here but thats enough of that LoL No need for me to be burned at the stake I will add his intentions were good I am sure but as time goes on Money starts looking tempting and he fell into it...
I respectfully disagree. When a board that prides itself on a certain level of transparency, suddenly seems to have more secrets than the nsa. Even rational members are going to start scratching their heads and asking questions.
I'm really dying to hear this. Can you be more specific please? But first answer me this ,...if a particular issue has nothing to do with you (or any other individual member) how is it that you suddenly become so intensely curious and demand some kind of response from us in the know? Not for anything but nobody ever has to tell anyone here anything if it isn't effecting that individual. The fact that a bunch of grown men even ask is ludicrous and on the surface appears to be juvenile and immature. This is all generally for the sake of conversation too. It's not like the information held back from the community by the administration is going to hurt or help any one of you. So your argument is on behalf of gossip. The whispers of children. My whole point is Dont worry about my damn secrets or what kind of secrets I may share with other mods but not you! Pay No heed to that which does not concern you! Obviously I'm it speaking to you directly Mr.Readytokillit , but to the entire crowd of people fueling these nonsense theories with a sense of entitlement. Don't get me started. Pppppfffff
I was extremely specific down below. Sorry guess my pineal gland hasnt fully calcified, and I ask some questions. I could give a shit less about gossip, Im here for quality gear. But as in every community in life (or cyberlife) politics are at play. When power players go missing (especially one that we looked to in order to safeguard our health), are we supposed to just go about like nothing happened? Everyone looked to Angus to guide our very well being, if all you said is true, that should have bee sung from the rafters, to protect the community. Carlos was all up in everything around here, lord knows how many memebers personal info he has. Should those guys not be made aware they were dealing with a snitch from the mods instead of through secondhand PMs and other gossip avenues? My other issues have been addressed by your colleagues. However I still think it's a shit policy that bloodwork has to have SRC tagged to it.
bigwillythk god some one other then me says something about carlose danger, tom ass boot licking bitch, if I had to hear about the plight of his poor Mexican people one more time id throw up !
RustyhookerAngus was a sellout piece of shit. Started off being a rad dude but money talks. You wanna fondle his balls, then go find him. He must be here or on that other site. Go join him.
Testing for echo? Echo?
Why anyone wants to belong here when they live on and for rumors is wacked. Go get a good piece of ass. Or smoke a bowl. Angus....paging Dr angus....
There's that chip on your shoulder showing. You clearly missed the point. I am saying nothing positive or negative about him. What I am saying is this. A good majority of this community that don't have masters degrees or understand organic chemistry, took his posts as gospel (I myself took them with a grain of salt as I do everything).
If the mods goal is community safety, and now 2 people that have sported mod tags are saying he was pure shit. Where the fuck was the big community warning? His tests slowly disappeared, after the #1 src got into it big time with him. The mods still never made it public knowlesge that the tests are utter bullshit. You have guys in this thread still asking if these tests are trustworthy. Yet he was still allowed to stay around, probably still collecting money for these "tests", then we are called stupid comspiracy theoristd when we ask why he was banned. And your still going to defend the position that we didnt need to know shit about it.
RustyhookerWarn for what? Where is he? Go find him and have him reply. Nitti posted his belief. I posted I don't trust either. Not a mod thing at all. I barked at angus a year ago. Where were you on that forum? It is posted. Go find it. Magnifying glass up top. Opinions aren't warnings. Go call or text him.
Holy shit dude. Do you really not see the potential for danger in what he did?
I gotta work tomorrow. Peace out homie.
RustyhookerSo what did he do? You're covering for him. Maybe I'm wrong? Explain how he's safe or good. I could be blind here.
Have a great week sir!
Well, he tested a sample of var at 100% purity. That same gear was tested on another board that used HPLC. The var was found to have mtren in it. Now if you believe that HPLC result, that var could be catastrophic for women to use. What if someone sent in gear that contained harmful bacteria, but he gave it a hearty thumbs up? Are those enough of an example of how dangerous he could be (provided all of these allegations are true)?
RustyhookerI hope it did bro. You know the old tales.
The one way I think it would benefit people of the community , is by letting some of us who have had past dealings with him, such as having paid for mass specs , and had mass specs done for sources we purchased product from. It helps us gauge how much of the past dealing we had were bogus or not. If I find out he was aligned with certain sources , it can help you figure out how reliable the information you thought u knew was and how to make judgement calls w those sources going forward, if you understand what I mean.
That being said I also understand it really is no ones business unless the admins feel it's pertinent for us to know . I am just the type of person who likes to know all the facts about situations as to make the best decisions when dealing with this game we play with sources and our hard earned money.
Either way if it was harming the community I am glad u guys straightened it out. Or it could be some totally diff reason we haven't even thought of and is his own business or safety
You're right. I'm a sleeper agent for the sources.
I've been on this board for nearly 4 years, not one of the "cool kids", my karma to years ratio is low, I'm older, not a bodybuilder, and my cycle experience only spans 4 years. During the time I've been here I cleverly spent my time helping other members where I could.(Believe me it was difficult to to do that last part because it was so against my nature)
I am -in short- the perfect sleeper agent. And it worked too, because now I'm a mod. I get to spend my time here screwing you over (my true nature) while protecting the sources.
And in return, I can be held suspect. Be the target of a witch hunt. Have my personal information posted for all to see, and threatening emails sent to my home and the FBI.
This is the conspiracy you're buying into?
Seriously, If you can't trust the mods here to be looking out for you. Than you're in the wrong place.
Rational members are thinking, that we are trying to protect everyone the best way we know how. If there were any benefit to sharing the information we have, we would.
Best said statement on whole page
lol i told em that shit made me laugh.
You can put whatever words into my mouth that you want. You have apparently taken my comment as an insult against you, that was not my intent. None of what you say changes the fact that there used to be a lot more transparency around this place. Maybe there was a policy shift from the man himself. Maybe there was no transparency to begin with, and it was all just an illusion. Shit I know I'm just an illusion, check my profile it says so. As for the rest of what I have to say, well, I do enjoy this place and I dont feel like there is any point in me getting banned. So I bid you good day.
No personal insult taken. I'm just baffled at everyones cynicism.
I'm not trying to put words into your mouth. My post is to that crowd standing behind you -the wider audience.
I agree. There was a time where there were fewer wolves among us -or perhaps we were just more innocent. And, things did seem to be more Transparent.
But now we have members who're only out for themselves, shils for sources, and untrustworthy by nature.
If one of my tools to identify an individual who creates several shill account was because that he always ended his sentences with a comma, should I be transparent about it? If the circumstances around something snared innocent members should I be transparent about it? If a member requested to be banned for his safety does it suit him to share that as well?
Are you looking for transparency, or gossip?
There is only one rule. Keep the site safe for everyone.
I promise I'll let you in on anything you NEED to know to accomplish that.
Now you're just being paranoid.
Transparency is what Im looking for. Before carlos showed his true colors, he brought up many interesting points, that in my estimation went unanswered. This is where a lot of my cynicism lies, a lot of current policy on negative reviews and bloodwork isnt exactly geared to protect the member IMO.
And is it really paranoid when there have been so many blatantly edited and censored comments over the past few weeks? I know the rules like the back of my hand, and I personally had comments censored, ones that in no way shape or form broke any rule.
I know carlos was a bitch that had to go, but (without getting gossipy and naming names) I can think of a couple former senior members that had public "discussions" about policy that are not around anymore. Then again, I
RustyhookerThat guy flat out refused to show proof. So you got a 1 karma brand new outta no where dude posting bloods with no proof? I'm sure you can prove every purchase.
Dirty members months ago were posting fake bloods. Noone remembered that dude was proven a fraud. The gossip crew just kept talking about the shitty source. How fair is that?
Every member that posted bloods with proof has gotten Hella thumbs up and karma. Proof is what keeps sources up on par.
You are focusing on one case bro. What about when our favorite Hebrew SRC was put on hiatus for threats against members? No, you're right Im totally out of line, maybe I can use your tin foil hat.
RustyhookerYou believe his self promotion bs? I certainly dont. If you're naming the same person with pharma hgh bs generic re labeled stuff. Lol. Sources or anyone is not supposed to self promote per rules clearly posted. He hates me no doubt. Lol
What the shit are you talking about? What does any of that drivel have to do with me stating that it can be a scary prospect standing up and saying "hey Israeli/Romanian (pick one) gangster, I think your gear is shit". You sure have become one snide little fucker as of late.
Ace VenturaHe was a mod, dude. He knows more than us now and he wants to flaunt it.
^^^ Third man in!! lol
U guys crack me up. Look at this thru the source eyes. U post blood work and have less than favorable results. So the source says what was your order number and u refuse bc your scared to give away your identity. What's the source goin to do hire a hit man from across the big pond to take u out lol. U watch way to much tv. There businessman it's much better for them to help u solve the situation and look good than threaten u in anyway. U realize that's bad for business right? The Israeli mob coming to get u lol
Lol real funny if they send a massive order and tip off your local LE. Oh wait absolutely no SRC has ever threatened to do that (sarcasm). Think outside the box. Dont just agree cuz the mods tell you shit is cool. Ill say this in caps so no one gets this shit twisted.
I BELIEVE THAT FOR THE MOST PART THE MODS DO A GREAT JOB, AND HELP KEEP US SAFE.
But the second you just blindly trust their word without asking questions, you could be setting yourself up for a fall. Mods are fallible bro.
Really so out of the thousands that have ordered here go have one person come here and post anything like this has happened. Get real. There always some danger but the thousands of people that have ordered here how many times has this happened? Bet the members here make tens of thousands of orders a month Lot mAke multiple purchases. So where is all these people that have had hitman come get them or had them send hot packs. If your talking one or two instances out of thousands and thousands big deal.
You know even tho we duked it out a while ago you son of a bitch LoL I agree with you People forget this is the black market they fall into a safety net feeling with eroids it can make people feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside,How about this example Guy has bad gear or gets into a heated argument he causes a big uproar the source you use decides to sell your information,or some dude that wants to take retribution out on your sweet ass pays a source you use to give him your info...If guys don't think that happens then they are fucken blind....The point is No don't live in fear that shit like this will happen But don't be so knaive to think your safe enough to let your guard down
Haha, just a difference of opinions that day. You definitely cant trust these SRCs just cuz youve exchanged a few emails with them and they call you bro. They will do what is necessary to keep their cash flowing. Most of the SRCs know its cheaper just to shut someone up with a couple hundred in free gear, but if a guy really took a stand and wouldnt accept the bribe. That guy could be in some serious shit.
I know of 1 source who was kicked outta here that threatened to "pay him a visit better watch your back" to one of my buddies because he lived in the same state as him and got banned at another board I am at.Some sources save information that is fact but they will claim they don't ....AAS Dealer is only a step above your neighborhood crack dealer LoL a gem I learned from some old forum post here
The ironic thing is rustyhooker used to know that, and preach it as part of keeping yourself safe. Now I seem to be a raving lunatic that buys everyone else's bullshiy. All for criticizing a rule that takes away the anonymity of our username, to put us directly at odds with a SRC.
RustyhookerNa. You just bought into too much bs from the queens floating around here. I remember you used to think for yourself.
Me buying in on anyones agenda. Not so much. I think you need to reevaluate why you hang around here. It used to be to help people and gather info. Lately you've just plain had a chip on your shoulder,
I can make you one bro, must wear tin foil hat at all times.
no pics of the gear no proof , if you cant prove you bought the fucking shit than there is no contest i don't see what people don't get about that. Also gotta love the people who google blood panels and copy and past , or just steal fellow members. I know rusty all crazy talk lmao.
RustyhookerI'm going back to tinfoil around my head. Ufo is sensing my thoughts.
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