posted Tue, 11/21/2017 - 13:22
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I have been taking shots for a while and always have a little soreness. However, after reading a lot I decided to try something different. I took the shot deeper in the muscle, i usually don't go far in the muscle, this time after being in the shower, I also heated the oil up under hot running water before injecting, then I took it a few hours before I worked out. I have like 0 pain compared to the way I was doing that. What is the biggest factor that I mentioned to reduce the pain after shots. Thanks.
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Is aspirating an absolute necessity. My TRT doctor never mentioned to aspirate when I was prescribed TRT. My understanding is they no longer require people to aspirate on TRT injections. However, through reading and the side effects of what may occur for several minutes I am thinking you should to make sure I am not in a vein, some people say you go through the vein. I know one thing I have fought with TRT shots and pain for almost 9 months and my doctor never gives any advice on pinning. Since coming to the forum and reading, a whole lot more exists to pinning that the information they give you at the local doctors office. I have way less pain since I have started the practices of pinning on this website. Anyway, opinions on aspirating.
I've only been doing trt a couple months, but I aspirate as a precaution although I also wonder if it's completely necessary, just a better safe than sorry thing. As time goes I may get comfortable with the idea of not doing it, but I figure since I'm in this for life now, virtually a human pin cushion, I should keep those measures in place and not be complacent. Been pinning every 2 weeks with 23x1 but thinking about going every week and swapping to 25 gauge..
Switching to a 25g pin will certainly decrease pip, herp. Good nugget. +1
Picked some up last night, will be trying em out soon. Got 1's and 1.5's.
When I used to get shots for TRT by the nurses, they never aspirated and I continued on with that practice once I was given the ok to do the shots on my own. They went through how to pin and everything and said to use 1.5 inch 23 gauge. I quit getting that harpoon stuck in my ass and went to 25g 1 inch instead. So much better. Anyway doc and nurses weren't concerned about aspirated so I am not either. I tried it a couple times just to see what was up and all it did was cause more pip because the needle ended up moving around more.
I ALLWAYS do mate......for the extra 3 seconds it takes its worth it for peace of mind.
Saftey and every precaution taken is a must in this game bro.
Stay safe
I know. I have been reading and researching it a bit, I can't believe the doctor never mentioned it when he prescribed TRT replacement. Just blows my mind. They look at your blood work, bring you in and brief conversation, give you a script and out the door. Nothing evening about pinning or how deep you should give the shot. I am dumbfounded. I mean I have read so much good advice on here and not heard a single thing about any of it concerning pinning. Crazy!!
Most medical professionals donโt asperate anymore and donโt teach it for intamuscular injections. This is a change from the past. That being said, I still do it for my trt injections. Donโt see how it would hurt anything.
Plus we are not professional nurses. Aspirating is a good idea, most of us know how terrible it is if we get just a little bit of oil in the bloodstream, just imagine a full on injection.
RustyhookerCough a lung out...
Massage the site for a couple of minutes after Injection. Try that if you haven't already.
Do not massage.
My pharmacy does injections, pharmacist like 99 years old, so I asked him about massaging, I also emailed my much younger doc and asked them. Both said "Do Not Massage". Old school and new school agreed. I'm convinced.
I never understood this concept of massaging it!
When you massage it right after pinning all you are doing is pushing that big bolus of oil around in your muscle which causes microtearing of the muscle tissue which will lead to greater scar tissue buildup. Best thing to do is some light exercising to get the blood flowing to that muscle which will help spread the oil out naturally and help with any pip. Just go for a walk after pinning your leg and that can help alot with pip. Same with applying a heating pad to pin site. The warmth will increase blood flow and help reduce pip. Massaging a day or two after pinning is fine but don't do it right after.
Thanks. I'll try the heat pad thing instead of massaging. Funnily enough, I'd saw heat pad's recommended before when I was doing my research. Think I'll pick one up off Amazon, they have a great selection of heat pads.
RustyhookerI like the long rice pad style that fits around your neck area. Works well for pip and warming vials.
That is what I use as well. And also I pin before bed.
RustyhookerSometimes i pin before bed. Typically its morning preworkout so bloodflow does its job. Some of the old ugl with crazy pip and pinning before bed caused more soreness by morning.
Yes sir, absolutely!!
Are you sure? I was told it helps spread the oil out. What do you recommend?
I recommend getting good at pinning. After awhile pip will be rare unless there is a problem.
RustyhookerDont massage. That damages the muscle and builds scar tissue . Read my forum.... linked below
Keep in mind pip can be caused by alot of diff things. To shallow a pin, poorly brewed gear, moving to much during injection, allergic rractions to the oil or solvent and certain compounds can just plain hurt. Some of it is trial and error. You may not respond well to certain oil....your source could just brew painful gear. Find a source that has gear that works for YOU and make sure your pinning properly. Certain stuff just hurts....period. DHB, primo ace, even test prop hurts guys. Do what you can to make it as painless as possible and if it still hurts either try a diff compound or even a new lab.
+1.
Lot's a damn good nuggets in this comment, brother.
I believe I was pinning way to shallow and have for a while. The Doc prescribed me TRT and I picked up at the local pharmacy and never understood how to pin, till I started reading on the boards here at eroids. Then I made some adjustments and the last pin was great. I definitely was pinning to shallow to start with.
K, thanks. Good information to think about.
The only time Iโve ever been afraid after I pinned was when I pulled the needle out and blood was squirting all over the damn place. I had blood everywhere. It scared the shit out of me lol
I like to pin before going to the gym as well. I may be wrong but I feel the movement afterwards flushes the area with blood and helps dissipate the product. Its my theory anyway. Overall though like Pale said it will get better. Im still a relative newb compared to most here but I have gotten pretty efficient and really havent had pip in awhile . Get deep enough and go slllooowww. I have taken 10 min to push in oil through a 25g that was a little thicker but, no pip.
I usually take it at night before I go to bed, but the last time I took it was before I went to the gym and it worked out great. I went deeper and always go slow.
Hello Sir,
You have lots of great advices below. I would just like to add from my own experience that the best time for an AAS administration for me is right before bedtime. Once in a while all of us have that painful shot and you don't want to walk around with that pain all day.
So to avoid this you do it right before you go to bed and normally any soreness will be gone when you up the next day.
Hope this helps Sir
Regards
I also pin before bed.
Maybe u can find your answer here:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
That was some good reading. Thanks
I use a 1.5 inch pin. But I always leave .5 or .25 out, just in case the damn thing snaps off. Gotta have something to grab with the needle nose pliers. Would be an embarrassing trip to the E.R.
I agree with Pale. It just gets better over time.
The last go round i used an inch needle and left it out about 1/4 inch. As I read and all the experienced users are using 1.5 inch needles and going way deeper. I have no pip from the last time by going deeper. I was having all kids of pip, looked like a pirate walking around the last several months. I was not going deep enough...lol
So many guys are just big pussies when it comes to pinning. I never use anything less then a 1in no matter where i pin. I hear more stories about pip from guys only to find out they are using little baby pins and not pinning deep enough. Glad you manned up and it worked out for you.
Well I don't know about the manning up part....lol I was giving myself a shot and looked down and about 1/4 inch of the needle was all that was out, so I went with it. I am learning though with time. I guess everyone has to go through that process. But even when giving the shot, I had no pip like I usually do when I go shallow. I guess I have graduated from sissy mode...lol
Going as deep as necessary is important. But you will also just get better at it in time and have less pip as well.
How deep should I really go, like an 1/4 1/2 or 3/4 inch in the quads?
I hit quads from the side, about 5 inches from waist line. I always bury 1.5 inch and rotate between quads and traps. Also very important thing i remember to do is pin SLOWLY! I cannot stress this enough. I pin at a rate of 30 to 45 seconds per ml little to no pip EVER
What???? 5 inches from your waistline??? %**^$รท=_^' ???
Try 10 inches above knee, outside of the thigh.
We may need a map.
Check this out my brother
https://youtu.be/9PZtiZg1zj4
Go a full inch.
whoa!!! I was only going like 1/4 inch and having pain, but that last one I went 3/4 and no pain. Live and learn I guess....
Yeah I remember my first time I was sitting in my couch shaking like it was -50 degrees outside and I jabbed that 1.5 in my quad and walked around like a pirate for the next week and now I can pin while cooking a steak not really but probably could
I done a quad injection once and as soon as I pulled the pin out it was followed by a stream of blood.
I felt a bit dizzy and was thinking I was going to drop dead lol
LOL, first pin stories are entertaining.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/my-first-shot-funny-sad-a...
That cracked me up......LMAO