posted Wed, 12/14/2011 - 21:35
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Does NO PIP (Post Injection Pain) mean the stuff is junk?
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On my second cycle here, doing Test E and Deca, 1cc 250mg of Test E and and .5 cc of 300mg Deca. Pinning 2x week.
Just finished my first week, and I'm worried I got junk since I'm not feeling any post injection pain whatsoever.
When I did first cycle this past spring, I had the same stuff from a different source (Naps) and the PIP was a bit intense sometimes. Now I don't feel anything.
This time around, the pain is not even there, as if I hadn't injected anything at all!
Is my body getting used to it, or is the stuff I'm injecting just oil, or under dosed?
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If there is no PIP it doesn't mean the gear is bunk. If the gear is real and you have no PIP then it has been manufactured correctly. Better the real gear with no PIP than any gear with PIP.
your pin is sterile,after taking cap off dont wipe it with alcohol pad,let abit of oil run down pin,try that should help.
put escilene in my calves once,fuck me they were on fire for a week,never again.
call me weird but I kind of like that burning feeling from the alcohol lol. I wipe my injection needle down with alcohol pad ..that's just me though
the only time ive ever felt PIP from enanthate or cypionate or and other long ester test ive used is when i 1st oringinally started using it or if i started pinning a area ive never pinned before, be happy your not gettin injection pains anymore, I remember the 1st time i ever used AAS I started out with test prop, theres no other time in my life i can say that the PIP was as bad as what it was then. I was limping around everywhere for 2 days after injecting my thigh, I loaded up on tylenol and loratab and i still felt the pain. yeah you might want to be thankful lol. It makes wonder about the enanthate you used last cycle becaue the injection pain should have went away, of course everyones different but like i said short esters like prop is the ones really know for their dramatic PIP
Best pip I have had was pinning my bicep - if you want some pip try that ;)
I have used 3 different kinds of Prop. The first brand I used gave me great gains and had horrible PIP. The second brand I used gave me moderate gains with less PIP. The third brand I used gave me AWESOME gains with NO PIP. From my brief experience with gear, no PIP does not mean bad gear.
Pin in your calves or traps muscles and let me know how that works out for you !!
Any particular reason why you suggest this? I tried doing it last time in my quads and it hurt like the dickens!
Bcuz i also had gear to where i felt no PIP and was concern about gear being fake but then i pin in calves and traps and will never do it again. It all depends on who makes the gear. I've had gear that on my quads didnt feel shit and other that had me limping for 2-3 days after pinning in quads !!
Naw my TRT has no pip at all and thats from my Dr
So after one week on Test E and Deca your questioning if it bunk ??
I have 2 words for you (really I have quite a few more wore but I'm trying to be nice today), Enanthate, Decanoate.
Read about them here : http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/list-steroids-...
ItsNoeldude be happy wtf would you want pip? everyones different and me over time feel less pip ... 3 years ago i would get pip like a mutherrrrffff now is just like ok
Damn Frankie you really know ur shit man. It's great seeing sources chime in with
Knowledgable answers:)
AnonGet some Axio gear and shoot that Ethanol (cars run great on the shit) and you'll feel that for sure.....LOL
Yep I'd agree with Frankie. BA plays a big part of it. Some ugl's BA content can be as low as 3% whereas pharmaceutical produced gear can have 9% BA content or more.
FrankieNOT AT ALL .
pip can be due to many factors ,lets list them
1-poor injection teq
2-high acid content powder
3-too much ba solvent
4-poor grade solvents used
5- a new virgin injection site
injecting too fast
if you look at pharma grade gear "say norma test e and norma nandrolone deca for example" they are near totaly pain injections
a none pip compound means that it has been well made and is ph ballanced .
i have heard storys of ugl,s adding alot of ba to sterile oil and the user thinks its real becasue they get pip and comes week 5-6 with zero gains the seller could have made 1000,s in that time .
Now theres a man that knows his shit. I guess it would me safe to say your own stash will be pip free.
He sure does that put the nail in the coffin I am gonna give him a try
It can very well be that your used to it. Just because gear doesn't give you pip does not mean its no good. Some of the best gear out there has 0 pip. You will find out soon enough if your gear is legit.
I guess I'm asking because I'm not getting the "roid sweats" that I got on my first cycle. Joints do feel better though, thanks to the deca, and that's just week one. Love the stuff.
AnonJust because your joints feel better when you are ON Deca doesn't mean you are not fucking them up. Deca is a effective drug but masks joints issues for temporary relief to just fuck them off more over time in the big picture.
I am also the last MFer on here pushing high doses but your doses are weak IMO.
AnonNot only that but deca isn't going to be "felt" for a few more weeks..