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Aspirating

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Does anyone really aspirate before actually pushing through? I never used to, until I had a bad experience. I was doing my normal dose of a blend and immediately after the shot I felt like I was going to die. Turned a grey color all over, heart felt like it was going to stop, couldn't walk or talk. My girl called 911. Symptoms lasted about 30 mins. I literally felt like I was dying. The ambulance came and said I either hit a vein or artery, or the gear was not sterile and I had injected something foreign into my body that I was rejecting. Anyone ever have a similar experience? I now aspirate, but am still weary before hand and haven't used any blends anymore lol.

JackedUp365's picture

Never once had to aspirate in the 10+ years of using AAS. Sometimes I hit a vein and can literally taste the medicine running through. It usually lasts about 5 minutes at the most. But, never a feeling of death. Hope you don't have to suffer through that again bud ... And always buy quality Gear! Good Luck.

kibby's picture

Any chance you could of suffered a panic attack???

This is exactly how I felt when I went through a bad spell of panic attacks..... just the impending doom feeling is a classic symptom.

Just a thought buddy

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J_Shmoney's picture

Def thought that was a possibility due to the fact I've had quite a few of those. This was a little different. Especially since I turned grey and and couldn't speak and vison was blurry. The rest def made me think it was a panic attack.

irongame427's picture

Na, all modern literature tells nurses not to asperiate if shooting into the accepted injection points as there is little to no veins or arteries in those areas, like the glute, side delt and quad. But spots like biceps, triceps, traps, chest etc aren't medically accepted spots to pin so some might argue to asperiate when pinning into those spots because there is more veins and shit there and that's why doctors choose areas like the delts and glutes to give shots.

Textbooks also say it'll cause the patient more pain if you asperiate. I don't think it's gonna hurt to do so, but you asperiate and then go to push the plunger in and I guarantee you've moved that needle from the spot you asperiated even just a tiny bit and now you could potentially be in a vein. So imo and according to the center for disease could control and all nurses textbooks it's an outdated method. But go ahead I did it for like my first 2-3 years using gear.

JL's picture

I don't. I did when I first started pinning myself. Once I got the spot figured out and my technique down seemed like an unnecessary cause for pip.

bigjrock's picture

I know your supposed to aspirate but I never have, and Ive been injecting for years. Once in awhile i might hit a nerve or something but other than that nothing serious. It's recommended to do it but alot don't.

J_Shmoney's picture

I agree it definitely makes for additional pip. Which sucks. But after experiencing that, it's worth the pain after lol

Makwa's picture

My Doc/nurse never did when I had to go into their office for my TRT shots, so I don't aspirate either. All it does is wiggle the needle around more and cause more pip and scar tissue buildup.

IrishMack's picture

Yes sir, alcohol swabbed, stabbed it in, and acted like it was a race to get the oil in my muscle.

KMC's picture

Always aspirate.

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J_Shmoney's picture

That's where I injected lol. My ass. I like to pin there because I've read it's the safest and most affective but that might just be Bull.

J_Shmoney's picture

Yeah it was a teen blend. With test and one other compound I forget

Baby Herc's picture

TenaciousD 4 years ago
If you inject oil into a vein it will cause you to cough because the oil stays as a globule in the blood (oil and water, remember?) and will travel back to your heart, (that's what veins do; arteries away from the heart) go through your heart and end up wedging in tiny blood vessels in your lungs.

The lungs act as a filter for anything traveling through the veins. You may of heard of pulmonary embolism (PE). That is when a blood clot in a vein (usually after surgery or a long flight where the person didn't flex their leg muscles to keep the circulation going) dislodges and goes to the lungs. It can go unnoticed, cause chest pain, coughing and shortness of breath, or kill you.

One thing people who experience PE often say is that they also feel "a sense of impending doom." I wonder if you had any feelings of panic when you started coughing. I guess so, since you titled this "Kind of Scary." The cold sweat also goes along with this.

If it is a small amount of oil you injected the risk of something serious is very low. It would take a pretty big bolus of oil to cause a significant or fatal episode. But you should definitely aspirate if you're putting in more than a cc or two if you are otherwise unwilling to do so as a matter of routine.

I've seen a large amount of air, probably 5 cc's, accidentally injected directly into a vein and the patient nearly died. Anything other then water-soluble fluid in the veins is a bad idea. BTW, it wasn't my patient but I helped resuscitate her.

Just FYI, I inject people with stuff under xray observation for a living.

J_Shmoney's picture

I didn't cough. That's why I'm not positive if it hit a vein. I definitely felt impending doom. I've never felt so close to dying before. Could it be from not sterile gear? Because if that's the case I don't want to use that brand anymore.

Baby Herc's picture

I always aspirate! intravenous you body can only absorb water soluble (Not Oil), that's why most vials say "Intramuscular injection only"... never inject oIL into a vein...

J_Shmoney's picture

It wasn't on purpose. There's a huge difference in im and iv injections. It was in my upper ass muscle where I've shot in rotation for a while.