This is a big issue. I have come to terms with the fact that this is not an MMA website or a boxing website, or a bodybuilding info site and that we don't even limit ourselves to catering to the needs of competitive athletes in any sport. Its an AAS site where anyone that uses steroids or even peptides can learn much with a focus on understanding how to use the chemicals as safely as possible - whatever the person's reason for using - we don't discriminate.

"Advanced" cycles

I don't know what else to call it, but just that word is so alluring to the young. Who wants to do basic stuff when you can take it to the next level - and quickly at that.

The bottom line here is that the "advanced" group is a narrow clientele in the community. What did Mr. Spock say - something along the lines of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."

I can comment about the bodybuilding "industry" in the United States. I don't know what goes on in the UK - I have heard a little bit about the level of sponsorship in the Middle East where the sport is a much bigger deal than it is in the U.S. In any case, it's one expensive hobby and even if u do it full time and have a training and consulting business and some supplement contracts, or even if you own a gym, u still have a lot of bills.

The industry is filled to the brim and overflowing with all manner of consultants, very expensive advisors. You have trainers and coaches, you have nutritional specialists, there are even folk that specialize in chemistry (they don't have websites and don't advertise - word of mouth only) - medical doctors that personally use steroids themselves - when u find one of those eventually - it's like striking gold. Those docs know all about the health effects of the veterinary compounds we use like EQ and Tren. When they review your blood panels it's through the right lens. Etc. and so forth and on it goes.

And so, many of us (I think many is more appropriate than saying just some) pay pros to do cycle design. The idea of being able to come to a website like this one and get the same info for free would save a boatload of money but it just ain't gonna happen.

I think we can take the best of what we learn outside about AAS and use it to enrich this community. I don't know how others feel here - but posting up heavy cycles with all manner of compounds and peptides should certainly not be a source of pride.

What about slin? In wide use in a narrow group. I think even discussing such a thing opens up the real possibility that someone will die. Not worth it at all. Not in keeping with the goals of the site in any way shape or form.

Even though it may not be, adding information about chemical use that a few people who have decades of experience behind them to the archives of eroids in my mind just doesn't add any real value.

My two cents for whatever it's worth.

It is a shame that the youth that view this site dont read between the lines and see that more isnt always better, because it half ruins the freedom to discuss things people have researched or might have insight on to further develop one knowledge on a compound.

I say half ruins because on the flip side it has made me(a good thing) rethink even further how i purchase and go about my trt and diet. I am getting tremendous results with pedestrian dosing that i did not previously practice and thought impossible from early 20's till mid to late 30's...i thought i had to load up. Im leaning out like a champ and my sides are minimal. Now im not saying advanced compounds and cycles arent good im just saying i was never doing it right and now that i am i wont need to bump the doses up or add a ton of compounds for a while, if i ever do it again...in short i'm already a big and strong bastard, im eating like an animal and leaning out better than ever and love it.
And i will add i learned my lifestyle change listening to the advice of our guru and experienced eroids members that are wise minded.

Sorry for the ramble hope that made sense. This youth topic gets me fired up:)

Some of the plans from youngsters in cycle logs are BIGGER than them so if you want advanced i would go in there ....... you wont see me even post a basic 500mg pr wk cycle ever again because nothing written is ever followed...... something is ALWAYS added because the noob knows best.

SI pages are a superb source for monster cycles!.... thats where the brain dead pond life hang out and love flexing their super stack muscles for ALL to see.

Until we have a fully mature crowd here Advanced cycles will stay where they should be!...... in my head.

Yeah it would be nice to have something around here like that. I don't just want to talk about Test E at 500mg/w.

There is a group. Request membership. There are a few admins in there but the creator (RoidNoid) is no longer here. It hasn't been very active in a while. If you want to discuss unorthodox or advanced cycles, just talk to the right ppl. Create a group pm with some guys who you know have a grip on this thing