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Day 6 pip questions

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Morning gents,
Started second cycle 2 Friday’s ago. 500e shot Tuesday Friday. First pin had small pip second day but gtg. Second pin was dosed around 250 and still have a tender knot of top of thigh.(not around injection site). I pinned Friday and bam same exact thing on other leg. I was using 5/8 25. No signs of infection. Used my kids forehead thermometer and got 97 on both legs and forehead lol. Question is I have never had pip that lasted this long and is it caused by accidental subq from 5/8 being to short? Gear dosed high? Bad gear?

cajunfire's picture

I'll try to keep this simple and hopefully help colt45 out.

Ok I read over your stats and profile.
It helps with a little more info. Your goals, BF, diet, is this your complete cycle, did you take bloods before, are you going to take bloods after, do you have pst cycle treatment,your training regiment, is this your lifestyle or just a kick, any health conditions, is it TRT (I doubt just had to ask).
There are a ton of things that must be done. Enough of all that unimportant stuff.

Ok your 6'1 &190 that tell me that you might not have enough muscle mass in your thigh, you should definitely switch to your gluts, it's a solid muscle mass.
Take your right hand and place your thumb on the high pt of your right pelvis bone extend your hand to your glute where your middle finger fall's on your glute you can go inward 1'' that should put in a good spot, dont start to vere upward towards high glute your going to be in the same boat your in now thats a complicated site.

Your injecting in your thigh, there's 7-8 muscles in the front of your leg, 4 make up the majority of mass in the front thigh, again not sure exactly what precise area you are pinning but you can easily split the edge of a seration and hit another, or have a shallow pin and injection will fill very close to muscle surface.

And your pinning 500mg or 250 in your thigh your asking for trouble if your not familiar with muscle breakdown, remember haste makes waste. Delts same thing, pecs can tricky jusy depends on your BF so you can see clear muscle definition. And please no calves, that is for the experienced no disrespect.

Heating pad a little Aleve, and eat up a few bananas should help.

Hope this helps.

Cajun

johnmarshall12's picture

Go with 1" pins! Anything shorter is looking for problems and can create absorption issues as well as issues at the injection site. Just read the article on Sub Q injections, and I'm not a fan!

Protein4breakfast's picture

I use 5/8th inch with no problem even with high concentrated gear but I’m in the minority on that usually 1inch to 1 1-2 inch is recommended. I never understand why people like pinning quads. I only do glutes and shoulders. IF I were you I would only pin glutes your on long esters so going left cheek right cheek is enough site rotation IMO and it would cut down on pip. Also With Some brands pip is worse then others so going glutes will make it more tolerable if your gear is made with ingredients that give you pip.

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Protein4breakfast's picture

Right cheek Monday left cheek Friday been doing it for a year now without problems. When doing short esters I add in shoulders.

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Protein4breakfast's picture

On a single compound long ester cycle of clean sterile gear the chance of an abscess would be very small. It’s such a small amount of oil. Typically it’s when multiple cc”s of oil are injected continuously in one spot or bad gear that causes abscesses.

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addicted.to.pain's picture

Question is I have never had pip that lasted this long and is it caused by accidental subq from 5/8 being to short? Gear dosed high?

yes bro 5/8 is to short, I had the same issue in the past pinning with slin pins, always go with a 1'' or 1.5''.

pickle's picture

This happened to me a few weeks ago. Went to the doctor and he said i was going to get aids from it. He was wrong, i grew a 3rd leg. Now i have 3 quads to pin in yay!!!

Munchichiman's picture

Lol

GizmoDuck's picture

You never go full retard!

333's picture
45colt's picture

Being that it is filtered and sterile, do you min in pin syringe? And how much do you add to 1ml of e300

Pale's picture

If it lasts one more day you are going to want to get ahead of it and just go ahead and amputate that leg. Your life could be on the line bro.

GizmoDuck's picture

They are making advances in Prosthetics. Shoot. Look at Jax’s arms from Mortal Kombat

Ha

45colt's picture

LoL, probably should get them both taken off. PIP is one thing just confused with the knot on the top of the leg.... away from injection site.

Greg's picture

5/8th is too short.
500mg is too high

Pip will be more of a burning sensation sub-Q, v. a baseball bat to the leg sensation with IM

GrowMore's picture

That’s a recipe for disaster

45colt's picture

Thinking about getting off and becoming a little bitch haha.

45colt's picture

Yeah for sure feels like baseball bat. Clear the confusion it is 250 on Tuesday left, 250 right Friday. I have had pip that lasted a couple days but tomorrow is pin day and my leg still has knot from last Tuesday.

Greg's picture

Clear as mud.

Do you have test-e 250? Or are you pinning 1/2 mil of test-e 500

Overdosed gear is overdosed gear no matter what quantity. Overdosed gear will have greater pip.

Also, how many rotation spots are you using? left/right thigh; left/right buttock; left/right delts...

45colt's picture

I have e-300. Shooting .8 Tuesday and Friday. Little more little less but as close as 250 as possible. This cycle just started but last one was only thighs rotated, and never had issues.

Greg's picture

last one was only thighs rotated, and never had issues.

...And you never had high dosed gear and pip before.

Do yourself a favor, start learning and using different pinning sites.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323115.php
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/causes-and-so...

45colt's picture

I have had pip before, I meant issues as in a knot on the top of my thigh and pip that is going on a week.....

Pale's picture

Yea bro if you are going to pin twice a week you need to hit the other basic pin sites as well. You should be doing your delts and glutes at very least. If one was really only going to pic one site it would not be quads. Glutes can take the most.

https://www.spotinjections.com

45colt's picture

I understand that I need to pin other locations... my question was in regards to my 2nd and third pin. Why is there a knot on the top of my thigh away from injection site??also are 1inchers plenty flr glutes also???

Greg's picture

Why is there a knot on the top of my thigh away from injection site?

Hard to say without seeing...Could be you had tightened your muscle while injecting.
If you're pinching a skin fold to inject into, that too can make it appear your "lump" migrated.

also are 1inchers plenty for glutes also?

probably not, how skinny is your ass?

Pale's picture

No, you ned 1.5's for glutes. Order some 23g 1.5's. You can use those 5/8" on your delts but 1" would be better.

Pale's picture

six points is plenty for a basic cycle. Hell even 4 would probably be ok. that still spreads each site two weeks.

333's picture

Don't pin today then