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-1 Sustanon Cycle (Only by popular request)

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

1-12 Sustanon 500/wk MWF
1-14 ADex 0.5 EOD MWF
15-19 PCT Nolva/Clomid

WeekSustanon 300PinningADEXHCGNolvadexClomid
WEEK 1450mg / wkMWF
WEEK 2450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 3450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 4450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 5450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 6450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 7450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 8450mg/ wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 9450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 10450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 11450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 12450mg / wkMWF0.5 EODc
WEEK 13MWF0.5 EOD
WEEK 14MWF0.5 EOD
WEEK 1580mg 1st day200mg 1st day
WEEK 1640mg/day100mg/day
WEEK 1740mg/day100mg/day
WEEK 1820mg/day50mg/day
WEEK 1920mg/day50mg/day
WEEK 20
PRE CYCLE PIC: 
Datsik's picture

no contest, just lean muscle for me. Not strong man competition status LMAO

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ok im gonna get some from my friend today, thanks. any idea on the dose?

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I ordered hcg too, but thats gonna take a few weeks to get here

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As for winny, I do not know other than i was recommend to me to use at the end to cut some "waterweight"??? He also said it will harden the muscles?

so i figured it would be nice.

Detroitnate's picture

This is what I have and this is what it will have to be. I already started yesterday.

with this statement right here why would any one want to wast there time trying to help you.

I am not even going to start on the cycle.
you my friend need to read alot more research as much as you can and come back with a better way of asking for help

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Datsik's picture

I stated it because I have had 100 people come in and tell me WRONG! how about this? WRONG this? WRONG.

Instead of helping me work with what i purchased/

Its ok doctor doom there are plenty of people that will help someone that has the balls to say it and actually ask for help.

Please if you do no want to help rain on someone else parade. Theres no reason to take your frustration out through a keyboard. If you have noting nice to say then dont

Thats what a community is about. Not bashing telling people are fucking retarded.
The better approach would be like: Hey, bud, your stack is really messed up, you could try x,y,z. Of you dont then I would recommend doing "this" whith what you have.

Being a prick only gets you far on a message board, not in life

Please learn to love and not hate. thats why our world is so fucked up

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It was this statement right here (This is what I have and this is what it will have to be. I already started yesterday)
is why I said what I said now if you would have came on and said hey guys I messed up and I started this cycle can any one tell me what is wrong or what I need to add
i would have jumped right in and helped just don't come on here needing help and having the attitude that u have made up your mind on what you are taking and that's that's

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Datsik's picture

Well sometimes that what happens when you read text rather than hearing i. I posted a fuck ton because that I was worried about what I just started. I did not mean to come accross like a jackass either, just an idiot in distress ;)

Im now feeling good about it, just dont know about the NPP. People are saying cut it out..... :(

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I'd cut it out till u learn more about it bro it's a compound that if u r not prepared for the sides it will bit u in the ass here this might help I wrote this up for the community along time ago http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-seen-a-lot...

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Thanks bro. I start PCT 3 weeks after last pin or on the 4th?

irongame427's picture

cmon man really? If you asking when to start fucking pct and you already started your cycle you have not done near enough research to be using anabolic steroids. Thats one of the most basic of all facts, and the information can easily be found if you good " when to start pct for sust cycle". Its not to late to stop and hold off for a little while longer until you know exactly what you're doing.

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Plan on one thing and then it changes i had to rearrange alot. Just want it to be legit

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I's 3 weeks. Npp was shorter. I just wanted to make sure

cpatc88101's picture

OMG....... your already running the cycle and now you decide to ask questions after you start ....... lol jesus Christ.... I would think its common knowledge to find the info out first not dive head first into the shallow end...

Since your way too proud to come off the gear and just workout and diet properly, ill help you out.

1-12 wks / sust 250( if its TAS that means its 300mg/ml) Pin/inject - Monday/Wednesday/Friday 1/2ml(150ml) so your doing 450mg a wk. If your true to your diet and do the cardio you say your going to, youll put the lean muscle mass on you want no problem. Stop relying so much on the drugs. Remember AAS only assist in achieving your goals.. Diet and the intensity in the gym will determine your gains.

Next time ASK FIRST before you do anything. then you wont waste your money, or harm youself more than you already have.

If you have sides while on cycle (acne, gyno w.e) aromasin ED less than 10mg a day, if its armidex (I don't use armidex but I believe its .25mg or .5 mg EOD) ( you shouldn't need an A.I with only test though) and when you come off.
PCT Nolvadex first day 80mg/ next 10 days 40mg/ next 10 days 20 mg
Clomid first day 200mg/ next 10 days 100mg/ next 10 days 50 mg

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This is actually what I planned and everyone roasted m.... Maybe I needed to detail the steps as I may have come accross like a noob.Which I still am, but I have at least 2 retarded cycles under my belt and I am not making it a 3rd. Thats why im here asking YOU. This is Exactly WHAT I am doing and will continue to do. I think it just got frustrating being bombarded rather than taking the time to put all my info. The only thing that I dont have that I will possible need is HCG. My buddy is a bodybuilder and has ever ai known to man for me, again, maybe I should have stated that. If i get any sides i WILL be doing an ai

THanks for the insight bro!

cpatc88101's picture

you wont need hcg with test only.... I mean yes you can run it, but its really not necessary. Save it for another cycle when you double up on compounds. If you came back after that horrible tren cycle and then the horrible npp cycle, I think youll be able to come back after just test.
Make sure you run the pct like I outlined and you will have no problems.

And when you run the hcg(hopefully on another cycle) .... you can run anywhere from the first week to last, or halfway through your cycle to the last week. That will be dependant on what compounds you run and itll be your responsibility to research that yourself.
Proper dosing for HCG is 500 I.U's twice a week (1000 I.Us a week)
The last week you run it do 500 I.Us ED for 5-7days ending a full week BEFORE your PCT

Just run the a.i with the sust and youll be good.

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Even with the NPP?

Ok thank bro!!!!!

cpatc88101's picture

You do not have my support if you run the NPP. Its WAY too advanced for you. The more you shoot it the more damage you will do because you have no idea about the drug at all. You just got it cause your buddy told you it will help. I WILL NOT help you out with that. If you run it that's just plain ignorance. I don't care if you pinned already STOP! Its one of the more advanced compounds to run. I would not even consider running it till after your 30. Or have many more cycles under your belt. Its not the drug for you. You can get great gains from test only cycles, or test and d-bol, test and winny, test and var. .

The term 'LESS IS MORE" when it comes to AAS with guys our age, applys in big ways!!! Less dosage with less compounds = Great gains with less side effects

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im cutting the NPP. Im trading it for some adex clomid and nolva. I'm gonna give just sustanon a shot.

should I up the dosage???

cpatc88101's picture

Higher then 450mg a week? Fuck no lol Maybe other guys will tell you different. But if you can't get the gains your looking for from 450mg test a wk, then your not working hard enough...

The average male produces I think its anywhere from 4-10mg of natural testosterone a day(ON AVERAGE) and 10 being the very high end..... so that's 28mg-70mg a day... so for argument sake the average male produces 50mg of testosterone a week. Your using 450mg a wk that's almost 10 times the normal amount... whydo you want to go any higher? lol Man its all about the intensity in the gym and your diet. Stop worry so much about the gear. The gear will do its work.

And see how I am answering all your questions? Im not much newer to this forum then you, how can I have all this knowledge? Before coming on the forum I gained lots of knowledge from years of research. You have a question, type it into google and itll most likely be there.... You gotta start looking after your body better.
Honor your body brother. You do that by gaining knowledge of the things you put in it.. cool?

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Yes and I thank you for that!

Well lets say I have had 2 cycles that were bunk. I think I even got an infected abscess. My goal isnt to be in a competition but be in amazon shape. thats it. period.

University of Google is where I learned everything. But I also found this stack from Google, so I will be more weary.

I was told this was the GODLY stack..... idk

I've been on the diet for 2 months now and have shreded a shit ton of weight, so I can only imagine. I was geetting discouraged. I lost almost 20 lbs and over 8% bf before this. So maybe the low carbs made me bitchy... ahhaahaha

cheers guys!!!!