posted Tue, 06/20/2017 - 20:09
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-3 Overworked Cycle plan
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Due to the objective criticism I changed my mind and won't cycle anymore. I decided to do go vegan and start cross fit, time to get healthy thanks for your elightment guys
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It's really not hard to find one of the latest logs. but again I don't wanna put bad light on anybody special, I just don't understand the different standards in how ppl get judged here
I think about 78kg at 8% body fat. 1 1/2 yrs ago I suffered a knee injury and couldn't train legs about 6 month. Still haven't recovered totally. Constantly trying to get them growing
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RustyhookerIts easy to get carried away with all the options. My joints squeaked at the thought of winny and tren.
Winny don't break any PRs here, lol
Winstrol is finisher for at least 8% or under not for finishing a bulk! For what? To be hard under a layer of fat?
It's amazing me some of these cycles. Guy's trying to reinvent the wheel.
Anyways I like npp for a kicker to a Sust, Deca run. Alot can be done if foods and weights are high and intense. Decent 4th cycle. Granted you've already have run these compounds prior. Don't forget the cabaser, AI, a fully stocked refrigerator and pantry. 15-25 lbs easy if you put in the work. If you are left with a 5-10 lb lbm gain then you've won.
RustyhookerI used to love winny on spring cut when i was young. Now my joints flat out hurt with it.
Well sust is not an option for a 12 week cycle. I'm about 10% body fat, I just like to state a little more to not be telling something wrong. So not a huge difference to 8% don't u think? I want to take tren because of certain reasons I named, so npp was not an option or I'd prefer tren. And my stats are ok have seen much worse here with a lot more gear where the op just had more karma and wasn't told to stay away from that. In 5 years I'm gonna be heavier but still no reason for me to not use this explicit hormone now. It's not that I want to gain as much weight as possible, I don't give a shit about the weight. I wanna look good and I know that tren gives me that look.
This is why 25 is the cutoff for cycle advice. Maybe you'll figure it out when you're 30.
Didn't realize Sust is a horrible 12 week compound. Please enlighten us.
Agreed
Me neither. Some guru from this site told me that I wouldn't be enough...
Who is this "guru"
RustyhookerYolo bruh. Have at it. Cant fix stupid i guess.
-2 and gave ya another -2 for your stupid cosign on a walking twigs cycle.
How bout kick rocks kid. You're in the deep water
Just finished...looking toothpick.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/self-shot-after-deca-cycle
Seriously people just don't think anymore. My buddy came by yesterday and asked me if I had some tren he could have. I asked "why". He said. The guy at my gym said I can run it without anything else. I fn laughed my ass off and just told him no. I don't support stupidity. And he got mad and told me to fuck off because I don't know what I'm talking about.
Pf lifters. Smfh
RustyhookerMagic pill crowd. Smh...
The op on another cycle log cosigned some 6ft 2 175pounder on some nutty cycle. No brains
Don't remember talking to you but sure give me another -2 so I'll start crying.
That front load plus the prop kick, way overboard. My fricken head would explode doing all that plus adrol. Just stick with prop kick. If kicking with the prop then ditch the adrol kicker. I wouldn't even bother with the winni, especially if plan on running some adrol. It will tear your liver a new asshole. Forget about this getting crisper at the end of cycle. If you are going to bulk then do it right. Winni has no place in bulk imo. Run some adrol at the tail end to finish it off. That is what will help put mass on you and not the winne. If you are going to run tren you might as well drop your test down to trt levels then. Running that high of test is just going to cause aromatization issues and other sides and it isn't needed that high. Can ditch the ai then too. Tell you the truth though, I wouldn't even be running tren for a bulk anyway. Caber, I wouldn't take that unless you confirm with bloodwork, I would be running at least a 6 wk PCT with a 19-nor. Anyway, that is my two cents worth. I still think you have a lot of work to do with this cycle. Seem like you are over relying on the chems to much.
Thanks for your words. So adrol just in the end? 5-6 weeks? I've ran the test/tren like this and liked it so I stay with the dosing. But sure I'll leave the winny, I just liked the idea of combining a dht when the tren is really working. I know tren is not the best bulker but it gives u really nice, dense gains, and with adrol it's just magic. And starting with the tren in week 3 is ok this way?
Drol has piss poor binding affinity and has diminishing returns after about 2 weeks. That is why the best way to run it is to pulse it. 2 wks on 2 off.
Way, way, WAY excessive for a frontload. 600 mgs on the very first shot is all you need. I just plotted it on steroidcalc with 600 mgs as the first shot and 250 mgs e3.5d from then on. The graph is perfectly flat from the get go. I'd link it if I could, but that seems to be theoretically the very best frontload for stable blood levels. I tried it with 1,000 mgs the first two weeks and it's a joke. Blood levels would be over quadruple the rest of the cycle on week 2.
I'll look that up, don't like the idea of running Prop? Maybe the e even lower like u guys said (350mg) and then 350 mg probe the first 3 weeks. Then starting tren and two weeks later the anadrol
Why do you dislike trenbolone for bulking?
You can add more weight with a
Sust or Test e or c
Decca
Less sides better results
Than any other compound imo eat big
Pretty much sums it up.
You can add more weight with a
Sust or Test e or c
Decca
Than any other compound imo eat big
Neither sust nor deca are an option considering the cycle length
I don't like it. I don't like the test higher than tren, I don't like the anadrol kickstart, I don't like the winny. Could just be me. Seems overly complicated.
The winny was a test. I love anadrol and have good experience with this test dose. Not forget it's enanthate not that much more test than tren in there
I see alot I don't like about this cycle. How many cycles have you ran before? Have you ran all these compounds before?
4 cycles. I have just not in this combination, could u give me a little more input what u think needs to change. I personally had very nice restults with tren so I wanted that for sure, I love Adrol so that's in too. The test I've got plenty so that's why I decided for the e. And the winny I used before and I liked the strength gains and wanted to try it together with tren