posted Sun, 04/05/2015 - 10:15
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New Spring Cycle - Hair Friendly
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I am 36 years old and am 5'9" 183lbs at maybe 12% bf right now. I've run quite a few cycles and tried quite a few different compounds. Originally I was going to try some things that I've never tried before, namely Tren or Anadrol but I've decided against it and just want to do the friendliest cycle for my hairline that will still be effective. I will have caber on hand but won't use it unless I really need it. I'll be running PCT tabs that have clomid/nolva/aromasin starting 18-21 days or so after my last Sust shot.
| Week | Sustanon | HCG | Test Prop | Oral Turinabol | NPP | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 575mg | 225mg | 50mg | 225mg | 6.25mg | |
| 2 | 575 | 225 | 50 | 225 | 12.5 | |
| 3 | 575 | 500UI | 225 | 50 | 225 | 12.5 |
| 4 | 575 | 500UI | 225 | 50 | 225 | 12.5 |
| 5 | 750 | 500UI | 225 | 12.5 | ||
| 6 | 750 | 500UI | 225 | 12.5 | ||
| 7 | 750 | 500UI | 225 | 12.5 | ||
| 8 | 750 | 500UI | 225 | 12.5 | ||
| 9 | 750 | 500UI | 12.5 | |||
| 10 | 750 | 500UI | 12.5 | |||
| 11 | 750 | 500UI | 12.5 | |||
| 12 | 750 | 500UI | 12.5 | |||
| 13 | 500UI | 12.5 | ||||
| 14 | 500UI | 12.5 | ||||
| 15 | 500UI | 12.5 | ||||
| 16 | PCT START |
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Is this like a mini bulk cycle bro? Why are you running nandrolone short for such a short period? If this is a bulker why not take the sust out to 14 weeks and run deca for 12 - if you are having a love affair with NPP you can use it to kick the deca. I'm just thinking that your proper and real concern with recovery is pushing you to a point where the cycle's effectiveness is becoming diminished. Just my humble opinion. Also, u really don't need to kick sust with prop - it has enough shorts in the blend to kick itself.
I like a little extra prop in my sust hehe.
Its true I am worried about nandro shut down. I may actually just run Test/Tbol cause I don't want to mess with it.
I also don't fully understand the interaction between saw pawmetto and nandrolones if any. I know finesteride is no good with them.
That sounds like a plan bro. The amount of NPP you are running is contributing more to your shutdown than it is enhancing the anabolic effect of the cycle. Nandrolone is 19-nortestosterone pure. Tren and MENT are nandrolone derivatives. In my book, if you are gonna run a 19-nor, then run it full on or don't bother. I have never used saw palmetto, only finasteride. I have not had any problems personally running Test, Deca and finasteride. DHN from the metabolism of nandrolone is far less of a problem on the hairline than is DHT from the Test which the finasteride counteracts. Nor have I had an prostrate issues with the combo either.
My expiereince with tbol are of slow and steady gains so IMO 3:or 4 weeks is when I see gains. I believe 6 weeks at least wud give more optimal results.
And honestly I dont understand the concept of hcg all cycle. Seems to totally confuse the body IMO. Pct I get it. On cycle I don't.
The HCG is used to keep your balls functioning so they have an easier time restarting. Ive done it like this with success for quite a while now. Using during PCT will on inhibit your ability to recover your natural levels fyi. The anti-estrogen/aromatase is supposed to handle that for you during PCT the correct way.
Are you referring to how Rich Piana cycles HCG? If so that's fine but just know he doesn't PCT or come off ever. That's used as a bridge in between cycles which is something totally different.
Not referring to how he cycles it but to his explanation of what it does during cycle. His explanation is very practical. I honestly don't know how he uses it. But his opinion on the confusion of the body using hcg during cycle make perfect sense to me. It doesn't make it truth I realize. The truth is I don't have enough experience with hcg to really have my own opinion.Thanks for the feedback
I can tell you that if you don't use it over a long cycle you risk having little pea balls and they can even go back up inside you when they are that small. Not something I like so instead I keep them normal with HCG.
Are you taking finasteride? Test above 500mgs makes me shed more than anything else (besides just plain TNE and proviron).
Other than that I would agree will jello and push the tbol to the end.
Its unfortunate youre only running sust 12 weeks since the undeca ester will be just peaking by then
I may become a 16 weeker that would just finish with the Sust or else possible add another few weeks of Turin at the end.
AnonI would run the tbol last 6 weeks of the cycle, the prop and npp will start working fairly quickly so I would save the tbol for that extra boost at the end.
Good Idea. I would also run the tbol for 6 weeks instead of 4.