posted Sun, 08/19/2012 - 02:33
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age: 27
Height:5'11
Current weight:195 lbs.
BF%: 14%
1st cycle was sust 250mg 1 x week 1-8 weeks
my 2nd cycle was test E 300 2 x week 1-12weeks
deca 200 2 x week 1-10 weeks
dbol 40mg ed 1-4 weeks
hcg 250iu 2 x week 3-12
arimidex 0.25 ed 1-12
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex
3rd cycle
test cyp 300mg 2 x week 1-14
deca 600mg 1 x week 1-2
deca 400mg 1 x week 3-12
dbol 40mg ed 1-4
arimidex 0.5 eod 1-14
hcg 250iu 2 x week 2-14
plus pct hcg clomid and nolvadex week 17-20
| Week | sust 250 | Pregnyl | EQ 300 | dbol | Nolvadex | arimidex | hgh rip | T4 | test p |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1000mg | 900mg | 40mg ed | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed split to two | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 2 | 750mg | 600mg | 40mg ed | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 3 | 750mg | 600mg | 40mg ed | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 4 | 750mg | 600mg | 40mg ed | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 5 | 750mg | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | ||||
| 6 | 750mg | 500UI split to two | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 7 | 750mg | 500UIsplit to two | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 20 mcg ed | |||
| 8 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 9 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 10 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 11 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 12 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 13 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 14 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 15 | 750mg | 500UI | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||
| 16 | 750mg | 500UIsplit to two | 600mg | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | test p | ||
| 17 | 0.25 eod | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | 100mg eod | |||||
| 18 | 500iu ed for | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | 100mg eod | |||||
| 19 | Nolvadex | clomid | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | 100mg eod | ||||
| 20 | 40 mg ed | 100 mg ed | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||||
| 21 | 40 mg ed | 100 mg ed | 5iu ed 2xed | 30 mcg ed | |||||
| 22 | 20mg ed | 50mg ed | 5iu ed split to two | 30 mcg ed | |||||
| 23 | 20mg ed | 50 mg ed | 10iu ed 2xed for 4 moremonth | 30 mcg ed |
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tread-mMy brother! I've been backed up in PM but finally getting to this for you and I see an issue. The hgh protocol post cycle at 10 split is whT I'm seeing wrong. You will be back to natty so your ability to meet the balance in the axis on the gh side with 10 iu's plus your nightly natty is just not possible. So what we have is essentially a situation by where you are wasting a ton of gh and at the same time going to throw other things off. Lets say between natty gh and the supp of 10 iu's you can meet the need in balance of the natty and 2 iu's of hgh. You then basically wasted 8 iu's ed. Thats actually the least of the problems in that if you are only utilizing that amount you likely will not have T-4 suppression at all in the post and end up with high T-4, high T-3 from that conversion and suppressed TSH. All of which are a bad idea on the long haul. I recommend you drop the T-4 post cycle and simply cruise at 2 iu's ed. Even with your T-4 use in the cycle I want you to raodmap it. Run the said protocol? and then do bloods in a couple weeks to check the thyroid levels and the TSH. If in check great we'll check again later. If wrong we respond accordingly and check again in a few weeks. These roadmaps will help you over the long haul to figure out your "personal " need.
AnonThat looks like a decent cycle but there are many who would say even for your 4th cycle you don't need that much test. I would recommend something like 500mgs per week of sustanon and 600-800mgs per week of eq. I'm on my 6th cycle first time running eq. I'm running a low dose test e only 300mgs per week and 700mgs per week of eq. I'm not saying your wrong or not gonna have good gains because if you eat and train right you will just saying you don't need to bump up the test that quickly. Otherwise looks good!
thanks
CleyonWhy are you throwing EQ in the first part of your cycle while you are running Dbol? I would have put that starting at wk 7 or 8. Other than that, it looks ok to me.
Eq MUST be from day 1. It takes bout 8Weeks til it works. 17day halflife.
Also he should run TEST TWO WEEKS LONGER.....just so he hears....lol
eq take at least 8 weeks to kick in ?????? Are you serious
Are you being serious?
AssUhlHey guys i run EQ every cycle and I can attest to it taking around 8 weeks to kick in....def run your test an extra 2 weeks past the EQ...or taper off with prop...
do you mean aromasin ?
So do you get at least pre/during/post blood work?
Dude, you are gonna have an estrogen rebound spike and hate life my friend. Take it from me I know what it is like and it sucks. Serms never need to be ran higher than published journals and will only add to bad side affects. You need to get suicide inhibiter to keep estrogen from spiking during and after pct. This will keep estrogen an progesterone sides at bay.
zewi????
Arimidex has a temporary attachment to the aromatase enzyme and will detach after use of the drug is stopped. Nolva and clomid has the same problem as Arimidex regarding estrogen recepter sites. So you do the math....all that bound estrogen and free estrogen floating around will have to go somewhere no? Exemestane should be used during pct so the body is forced to create new enzymes for aromatase so the body slowly brings up estrogen levels avoiding spikes and high estrogen levels during and after PCT.
zewii understand what your saying. But believe it or not you need estro, when you body kicks in its natural test, and you get off Clomid and Nova, it will regulate just fine.
However, you lower estro to much and you can run into serious problems.
That's correct, you do need some estrogen, however low estrogen short term doesn't cause any serious side affects. The only thing low estrogen can cause is dry joints and low libido. Having to high estrogen short or long term can cause stroke, heart attack to name a few.
The amount of gear he is running will not allow him to get to low estrogen with Exemestane 25mg EOD in pct.
what do you recommend ? letrozole
Exemestane 25mg/eod during pct with nolva/clomid
do you mean aromasin
Yep
Thats a standard pct....did i miss something? Need coffee :(
can i ask is there a benefit to running hgh for only 25 days? i thought you need to run it for atleast 6 months with around 4 ius?
hhhh bro I will run hgh 10iu for8 months this only 25 days from 240 days (:
StevebDo before and after pics for this one.
Test needs to be two Weeks past the eq. Only 4Weeks on dbol. And since this looks to be made for dry/solud gains why dbol? Why not prop or tbol?? Liv support? Adjust your pct too.
how to Adjust my pct ? I have liv 52 and milk thistle(:
Nolva 40...40...20...20
Clomid 100...100..50..50
do you mean 1st week 100mg clomid 40mg nolva ed 2nd week 100mg clomid 40mg nolva 3th week 50 clomid 20 nolva 4th week 50 clomid 20 nolva ?
Yes. And either run test for 2Weeks longer OR prop taper. Eq has very long half life of 17days. Keep test up.
I been on hgh 6iu a day split in 2 doses for 25 days.my goal is 10iu a day split in 2 doses for 1 more month and drop down 5iu a day split in 2 doses during cycle
Looks good but...
I would use Exemestane 25mg/eod during pct with nolva/clomid. Also run nolva at 20mg and clomid at 50mg for the 4 weeks.