-3 Third Cycle - Test E/Sust, Dbol & Deca
Previous Cycle Experience:
First Cycle
Alpha Pharma "Alphabol"
Dianabol 50mg ED
Cambridge Research
Sustanon 500mg PW
Second Cycle
Cambridge Research Rip200:
Test Prop 75mg ED
Tren Ace 75mg ED
Mast Prop 50mg ED
Age: 23 Height: 6ft 1" BF: ~15% weight: 218lbs
Goal is to gain 15-20lbs with minimal water retention, there is alot of theories about Test E bloating you up and was unsure wether to swap the Test E with Sustanon at 500mg PW
I'll probably stick to a high caloric intake around 4500cal/day. Carbs 40% Fats 20% Protein 40%. If i come to find i am gaining more fat and water retention than intended, ill switch the the % round and up my cardio to something like Carbs 30% Fats 10% Proteins 60%.
I suffered from gyno in my last cycle and wanted to stay safe from it with the arimidex this will also help with he water retention, correct me if im wrong constructive criticism is appreciated. I cant source caber/bromo for the prolactin gyno cause by the deca - im alternativly using Vitamin B6 at a high dosage ED of 500mg, it has been proven to be a surprisingly good prolactin inhibitor, i am unsure wether to only start this when gyno flares up or better to be safe than sorry.
Anyway wanted to ensure this this cycle is g2g and get some advice and constructive critism if needed.
| Week | Test Enan 300mg/ml | Deca 300mg/ml | Dianabol 10mg/tab | Arimidex 0.5mg/tab | Vitamin B6 100mg/tab | HCG 5000iu/ml | Tamoxifen 20mg/tab | Clomid 50mg/tab |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 450mg | 30mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | ||||
| 2 | 600mg | 450mg | 30mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | ||||
| 3 | 600mg | 450mg | 30mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | |||
| 4 | 600mg | 450mg | 30mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | |||
| 5 | 600mg | 450mg | 30mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | ||
| 6 | 600mg | 450mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||
| 7 | 600mg | 450mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||
| 8 | 600mg | 450mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||
| 9 | 600mg | 450mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||
| 10 | 600mg | 450mg ED | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||
| 11 | 600mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | ||||
| 12 | 600mg | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | ||||
| 13 | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||||
| 14 | 0.5mg E3D | 500mg ED | 250IU E3D | |||||
| 15 | 40mg ED | 100mg ED | ||||||
| 16 | 40mg ED | 100mg ED | ||||||
| 17 | 20mg ED | 50mg ED | ||||||
| 18 | 20mg ED | 50mg ED |
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a bunch of posts deleted, to clear the air we dont not allow advice to be given to anybody under 25. This has been a site rule for many years and it has not changed. people may not like it and thats fine but that is the rules and we will enforce those rules. To the OP, the best thing you could do for yourself is come off the cycle and PCT. if thats not what you want to do then please go to another site to find your advice.
I apologize for contributing to anything you feel was not allowed. Getting Karma taken away will make me more cautious for now I suppose. I apologize again.
AGE:23
HEIGHT: 6'1
WEIGHT:218
BF:15%
First off you're 23 year old that's a BIG NO NO HERE... You're too young to use AAS bro. Eat eat eat and train as hard as you can. You have too much natty test (well maybe not anymore)
For your second cycle you used tren with no prolactin control? Ugh. This shows your immaturity and you didn't research at all.
Now you want to use d ball and deca? NOT TO MENTION your pct is CRAP if you actually even fully recovered from that 2nd cycle..bro seriously STOP doing what you're doing do you want kids one day? I suggest you think long and hard on what your doing to your insides.
He shouldn't he used Tren on his second cycle
RustyhookerExcellent! +2
So many people go pro younger than this... Are you kidding me. Lol! Hell of a lot better than smoking crack!
RustyhookerTough. Dilligaf
I completely agree with you. He needs to wait and his immaturity shows. All I was trying to state was he already has his mind made up and our advice won't mean anything to him. I don't believe he should even be here because he clearly won't follow our advice. Honestly, I had the little bit of karma I've earned taken away so I'll be way more cautious to even comment or contribute any knowledge or advice I may assist to others.
RustyhookerNo worries bro. I do understand where your coming from. We really pride ourselves on safety. It's a grey are but young folks can lose quickly . Have a great night!
I completely agree with you. Thanks.
And some people might say smoking crack is better then sticking a needle in their vein while doing heroin.
dont be ignorant!
I'm not making an opinion on something I don't know what I'm talking about. Therefore, I am not ignorant. This isn't the right place for him and I wasn't condoning the use to a kid. He already has his mind made up and he'll learn from his mistake. I agree with you completely, but there are far more things worse he could be doing. I wasn't trying to influence him at all. He has no right to be on this forum.
I didnt post for the answer "you cant do this", im asking for advice on how to ammend my cycle, ive introduced my body to various compounds - i know how my body reacts with test and foreign mixtures and alls im here for is advice, you have not helped me with this. Please try again you havnt mentioned anything in my cycle other than the PCT, would you want to reavaluate it for me if you have so much negativity to say about it
So you know how your body reacts to AAS how? Years of experience? So you have been using aas since you were 12? Do you know how long it takes for you to know your own body? PCT and go natural until your body has matured as well as your mindset. Once you hit 25 go nuts and start your experiments on cycles as by then you will have reached a body maturity and hopefully mind and brain maturity. It takes years to build a great body even with aas; its not a fkn wonder drug everyone makes it out to be. 5% aas; 85% diet, 10% training. Hit your genetic potential and then let aas get you over the last hurdle not the fkn other way around.
Follow these charts because I guarantee you are not even close to your potential at your age
http://www.weightrainer.net/maximum_bodypred.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-p...
If you still think you know it all and still want to cycle then so be it and I hope someday you think back and wish you waited.
Thankyou for your input; but respectfully was not needed.
I smell a ban coming
The youth is wasted on the young. I guess you will move on then to a site that will condone your path to nowhere?
Please elaborate your quote for me to show i have wasted my youth.
Maybe a site that foresee's sense and provides advice for the "kids" on eroids; to prevent further harm, wish me luck.
You will NOT get ANY help here. Like I said and you are TOO YOUNG for AAS. I'm not going to help you AT ALL nor will anyone else help/ watch you go thorough with this disaster.
LET ME ASK YOU AGAIN: Do you want kids?
Harley-DavidsonYou need to relax brother.... you jumped down his fucking throat ! Yeah i know your not going to help him but honestly do you really think what you just said is going to stop him from doing his cycle? Maybe make some adjustments for him and take it to Pm and find out his goals! Check his diet and advise him on new dosages or less compounds. Thats what these forms are for ! Im not taking a stab at you but this is the exact mentality of a lot of members here instead of actually trying to help !
Still no actual advise i am looking for. Your not being beneficial the correct advise you could have given me with a more polite manor and tendancy to show actual knowledge towards me; instead you could have told me, my bodies correct age limit in which i can start AAS - you as fact do not know that, i have recently have bloods taken 6 months prior to my last cycle and have shown i am a healthy male with normal testosterone levels; this is in response to your negative comment towards the recovery upon my most recent cycle. Furthermore you do not know if i am currently infertile already do you not which could in fact be offensive to me as you do not know me nor do you know my bodies correct age to begin AAS.
Please just stop! You've insulted everyone on this board GROW THE FUCK UP! What part of the rules don't you understand? No 25 No advice! PERIOD! Hope you like TRT shots for the rest of your life
That's been established. Let it go and get off his page unless you get off on being a prick
RustyhookerYou won't get advice on gear. Kick rocks