Test eq
My January cycle depending on blood work come November
Plan is
1-20 600 test e
1-18 600 eq
1-6 40mg Ed tbol
21-22 hcg 1500 ius 2/wk
1-30 Adex .25mg Ed
23-29 clomid 100/100/50/50/50/50
23-29 Torem 120/90/60/30/30/30
Quality lean gains is what I'm going for the dbol is in there only for the kicker and I like the euphoric state it puts me in. I'm not trying to put on 20lbs this cycle although this will be the first cycle since I quit smoking after 20yrs (yes I started when I was 10 and has been a rough road to quitting cold turkey) so I may blow up with all this extra oxygen in my blood who knows. I qive blood ever 8 wks since I was 20. I always feel better after a little blood letting. And there is a shortage.
My daily intake is 32-3500cals for maintenance. I'll kick that up to 45-5000cals. I'll adjust according to fat gain and what not. I eat clean pretty much year round. I have 2 cheat meals a wk. I take my daughters out on a daddy daughter date night they pick where we eat. And then a date night with the wife her choose also on where to eat. On cycle with the kids is my cheat meal and with the wife I stick to steak and veggies some carb depending on the day workout wise or halibut veggies and a carb.
I'll be taking liv52 through the the cycle and will try and get blood work again at 8wks and possible n2guard
I'm 225lb 10-12% bf 30yrs old this will be my 7th cycle.
495lb squat 375lb bench 585lb deadlift. I'm not looking to add a ton of weight to any of my life's a life of hard labor and motorcycle accidents and just generally beating on myself my joints just don't take the large jump in weight.
Next I'm think of running 4iu of hgh starting the month before and ending with pct. I would like your thoughts on this.
In pct I'm going to try Torem instead of nolva heard it's better idk know. I'm planning on a 4wk pct may extend to 6wks. I don't know if eq is as hard on the system as tren/or deca.
Next question is would you use var and would you use tbol.
Any input on this cycle as I have never ran eq or var.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Eq | Tbol | Hcg | Clomid | Torem |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 2 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 3 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 4 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 5 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 6 | 600mg | 600mg | 40mg/ed | |||
| 7 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 8 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 9 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 10 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 11 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 12 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 13 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 14 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 15 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 16 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 17 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 18 | 600mg | 600mg | ||||
| 19 | 600mg | |||||
| 20 | 600mg | |||||
| 21 | 1500iu 2/wk | |||||
| 22 | 1500iu 2/wk | |||||
| 23 | 100mg/ed | 120mg/ed | ||||
| 24 | 100mg/ed | 90mg/ed | ||||
| 25 | 50mg/ed | 60mg/ed | ||||
| 26 | 50mg/ed | 30mg/ed | ||||
| 27 | 50mg/ed | 30mg/ed | ||||
| 28 | 50mg/ed | 30mg/ed |
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I changed up the cycle a bit. Dropped car I just give it to the wife. Dropped dbol will switch to tbol and dropped adex and will just pick up some aromisan looks like it maybe better after alittle more research
Don't really see the need for the var. You should be getting crazy pumps and trucking along with the Test/EQ at that stage of the game. No need to trash your lipids with the var at the end. Don't think you'll really get much out of it when looking at the cycle as whole.
That is a shit ton of adex. Better make sure you need that much or estro is going to be crashed and any gains along with it. What's up with all the HCG? Just blast it at the end before going into PCT if need be.
Won't get much out for var or the cycle I don't have any issues dropping var. I'm not taking adex unless I need it. And may switch to aromisan. And a lot of people bash about using hcg before pct so I figured I would give it shot I prefer it at the end
Rustyhooker2 runs of dbol as kick and finish? Looks poorly planned bro and I'm an eq enthusiast.
No kick with dbol not sure I will use it and finish with var. I thought about starting with tbol. What would you change. This cycle isn't something planned in stone I just wanted to try eq as I've heard good things and why I'm posting it 4 months before I start so I can either change add something drop something. Idk it why I'm asking
RustyhookerIf bulking 600/600 is a nice gainer. Lowering test is also optional. Food drives the goals so it depends on how you've reacted with test in the past. The doses you proposed are simple and easy. I'm just not really into oral kickers. I like short esters to kick. Week 8 the eq will really get going.
Tail end is where I add in oral if needed. Var is excellent for strength and pump but it kills my appetite. Good if cutting.
Some folks do run tbol if they choose an oral kick. It's alleged to not be watery or gains lost like dbol. But I wouldn't double dip orals fron/rear without bloodwork. Everyone's different but best to be safe. Especially when later in cycle the gains are slower.
Provi imo would fit nicely week 4 til pct. Or even week 6. Provi in bonds test, lowers SBH , which keeps gains coming as long as good and gym are correct.
I'll switch to provi that's no problem and I will probably raise test to 600 and it's been suggested before and on the adex or aromisan I thought it was easier to crash your estrogen with aromisan and adex but if I'm wrong I would gladly switch if it's better. What are your thoughts on Torem instead of nolva
Adex through pct maybe rethink this with aromasin as you will more than likely have rebound.
To be honest its something I have on hand haven't really needed it except with dbol
Dont run adex during pct anyways if you need or dont but with test and dbol i would think you would
Rustyhooker+2
I'm probably not going to run it at all if I don't need it. But any reason why I would change to aromasin from what I've gathered they are pretty interchangeable. I ran adex through my pct after tren with no problems
Have fun..
It was a legitimate question on your reason why. I'm not saying your wrong I was just asking.
Richard.SimmonsSeems a bit to much for your goals. Why not just run Test and Var cycle or something close to that? 7th cycle and your @ 10%-12%bf @ 225lbs... EQ is going to boost in appetite, constant hunger and cravings, which is something to consider if you're cutting ? But really as I read this im not to sure what your goal is?
I would to put on some more weight I'm just over the 19-nor of deca and tren both which kill my appetite and I have to start force feeding myself. The body fat I'm comfortable between 8-12% my joints don't hurt and I don't feel like I'm starving. I'm not getting ready for a show. I would just like some slow steady gains who's var and eq seemed to fit the bill and help with strengthening the tendons if I've read that right. The dbol I have it and I like the state of mind it brings with it. Eq is just something I want to try and from my understanding you need to run eq longer16-20 wks. Arimidex I have on hand and probably won't use it unless I need it. I'm not trying to cut I would like to add a few more pounds after its all said and done if I could get 7-10lbs of quality muscle if I gain a little fat then so be it I can adjust that with some change in cals and cardio. I would like to hit 250 a 6ft at some point not all in one cycle with is why I figured my dosages were appropriate.