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  • EditStraight Bulk

  • Unknown22514   •   Mon, Sep 25th, '17 01:15   •   21 replies, 767 views

Cycle layout

WeekTEST E.DECCAD-BOLH.G.H.H.C.G.A-DEXCABERNOLVACLOMIDANADROL
1750mg500mg350mg4iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
2750mg500mg350mg4iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
3750mg500mg350mg4iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
4750mg500mg350mg4iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
5750mg500mg5iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
6750mg500mg5iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
7750mg500mg5iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
8750mg500mgI5iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
9750mg500mg350mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
10750mg500mg350mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
11750mg500mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
12750mg500mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg
13750mg500mg350mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
14750mg500mg350mg6iu ED500iu1mgEOD 1mg350mg
15-162iu ED
172iu ED40mgED
182iu ED40mgED
192iu ED50mgED
202iu ED50mgED
222iu ED20mgED
222iu ED20mgED

Description, concerns and expectations

I am currently 225-230 lbs and approximately 14% body fat. I plan on being roughly 11-12% body fat and about 215 lbs before I jump on this cycle. I will update this log with revised statistics and photo the day I begin my cycle which is in roughly four more weeks.

My expectations for this cycle are to put on as much bulk and strength as I can so that I can have a nice cutting cycle before this upcoming summer on my next go around.

I don't really have any concerns with this cycle as I am very familiar with these compounds. My only consideration would be changing my usual dosing time of H.G.H. from post-wake up to pre-bedtime. I would love to hear all of your thoughts on this. According to what I've researched it appears we produce most of our natural H.G.H. during our sleep which led me to initially always take it post-wake up. My reasoning was why would I want to do it before bed when that is the time I get the most of my own natural H.G.H. anyway? Now I am thinking, well ... we do most of our recovery and growth during our sleep so perhaps this would be the best time to dose? What are your guys thoughts on this? I have read a lot of supporting evidence for both.

Dosing protocols:

TEST E: 375mg Every 3.5 days throughout cycle until PCT.

DECCA: 500mg every 7 days throughout cycle until PCT.

D-BOL: 20mg everyday for the first 7 days. I will increase everyday dosing by 5mg each week until I plateau at 50mg ED for the last 8 weeks until PCT. NOTE: I may discontinue D-Bol use between 8-10 weeks of use depending on how I feel and where my bloods and liver is at. I understand 14 weeks is a long time to run D-Bol

H.G.H.: 4iu ED and then I will increase everyday dosing by 1iu every 4 weeks until I plateau at 6iu for the last six weeks of cycle. I will then drop down to 2iu ED during PCT.

A-DEX: 1mg EOD during cycle.

CABER: .5mg Every 3.5 days

INJECTABLE ANADROL: 50mg ED one hour pre workout

PCT WILL BEGIN 21 DAYS AFTER MY LAST SHOT OF DECCA. LETROZOLE WILL BE ON HAND DURING AND AFTER CYCLE IN CASE I EXPERIENCE ANY GYNO COMPLICATIONS.

Diet:

Will be following a 40/40/20 diet during this cycle (Proteins/Carbs/Fats). Looking to gain mass and strength.

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Comments

  • irongame427's picture
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  • irongame427
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I have the same thinking on gh, we grow and recover when we sleep so it's a good idea to take it before bed. Had the idea suggested to me by a top coach also. Post workout also is a good time when bulking, really can't say one is more effective then the other.

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  • bigjrock
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Run the test a couple weeks longer than deca. Pct two weeks after last test shot not deca shot. Run the growth steady thought out the whole cycle. Growth takes time to build up anyways . Dbol for over 8 weeks is not advisable. Dbol is best as a kick-start not at the back end of a cycle. Usually it's used to kick-start some gains while your waiting for those other esters to kick in. Tighten up your cycle layout

  • Unknown22514's picture
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Appreciate the input bro. Thanks much.

Last shot of Decca will be exactly one week prior to my last shot of Test. Thus my PCT will still begin two weeks after my last shot of test.

  • The Impastable's picture
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I tend to do 2 weeks before my last test shot. Then wait 2-3 weeks to start PCT.

Also, since you've not commented on Dbol, please tell me you're not planning on running it straight for the entire cycle?

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I've made an edit to the dbol.

  • The Impastable's picture
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See that now. An alternate option (8 weeks straight is still pounding your liver) would be to run a 2-3 on 2 off protocol if you are determined to run it for the entirety. Something to consider.

  • Dr.BroScience's picture
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  • Dr.BroScience
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14 weeks on any 17 Alpha-Alkylated oral is truly as No Bueno as it gets. Liver, Kidneys, and internals will all be pickled by the end of this run.

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  • Unknown22514
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Edit: Just realized I had my column for Decca and D-Bol mixed up.

  • The Impastable's picture
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14 weeks of Dbol is still way too much.

  • Unknown22514's picture
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I agree that it's a lot, but not unheard of. This is of course why I will definitely allow myself to opt out. It's very likely that I will drop it closer to the 8 week range.

And although I know it's not a bulletproof vest ... I always cycle with liver and organ support supplementation in conjunction to my use of AAS. I understand that health and well being is paramount above all else! So any bit that I can do to help maintain health and longevity, I will absolutely jump on.

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  • Rustyhooker
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This looks like a serious rewrite needed. Whats your priors? I'd scrap this plan. Simplify.

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  • Gettingbig
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I would just add that I use to use caber on cycle no matter what but then I learned that you don't need to use caber unless blood work shows you should. Usually as long as your estro is right you won't have progesterone or prolactin issues.
Caber isn't cheap the blood test is cheaper so I would get the blood work done before starting caber on a 2x a wk schedule. I have ran 3 nor19 cycles over the years and my last cycle was the only cycle were i actually needed it which was a decca cycle so now I have a bunch of caber I probably won't use. Its always good to have but I wouldn't use it unless you need it. The hgh can also cause the need for caber also so its good to see you're prepared.

I just looked at the pic in your account i would consider definitely cutting your bf% before running. You say its 14% where did you get that number from?

Good luck and good gains brother

  • Unknown22514's picture
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Thanks for the advice in regards the the caber. I guess I'm always just leaning towards being more safe than sorry as I've had gyno issues due to progesterone in the past. I may be more than 14% at the moment, but that's just based off the last time I checked with calipers. I'll be checking again as well as performing body measurements prior to cycle.

Also, will definitely be doing blood work pre-cycle, mid-cycle and post-cycle. Always.

  • Gettingbig's picture
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. I just wouldn't run a bulking cycle with a high bf because you're more likely to have gyno problems.

  • Unknown22514's picture
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Definitely plan on shredding more body fat over this next month pre-cycle. I've already been on it. Was 240 and have already dropped 10lbs and counting. Upped my cardio. More HIT. Tryin to cut down some before this cycle begins for sure.

  • Gettingbig's picture
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Definitely keep hitting hard

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Why Dbol as a finisher? Why ramp it like that? Switch it to the beginning. Straight 30-50mgs a day for around 4 weeks. Other than that? I love a basic meat and potatoes bulk like this. What's your prior use?

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I'm keeping the D-Bol at a lower dose in the earlier stages and allowing myself the option to ramp it up. I may or may not use the D-Bol the entire cycle. It's currently mapped out this way, but it all depends on how I feel and what my blood and liver says. That will dictate what I end up sticking with.

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Agreed, having a hard time understanding the layout, but it sounds to me like dbol is being used much longer than the 6 weeks he has listed. That's gonna shit all over his liver. I do understand why he might want to use dbol at the taper of a cycle, but this isn't how I'd use it...

I understand wanting to feel like you're on all the way until PCT, but give your body a rest Bubba. Rest is a good thing, extremely undervalued in this lifestyle.

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X2

Same thing with the growth.

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TBH I would run the growth at 6iu ED for the full 22 weeks if I could afford it!