posted Sun, 02/09/2014 - 13:12
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Spring Quality Mass Cycle - REVISED
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
5'9", 185 lbs, 10%, 35 years old. 4th cycle but first two were really tiny and 15 years ago.
I have used all of these compounds before, just not for as long. Im looking to gain another 15 pounds of quality mass or more. My joints hurt so the Deca is partially there for that. I'll be watching my blood pressure and maybe donating blood if I feel I should. I will do a PCT of Clomid/Torem/Aromasin and might incorporate some HGH or peptides in to this cycle as well. Aromasin will be on hand in case I need it but I don't seem to be prone to Estro sides. I got crushed by prami when i tried i tiny dose so I wont ever use that again. im considering caber but i havent had real bad prolactin sides before.
| Week | Test Enan | Test Prop | Deca | NPP | Dbol | HCG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg | 100mg | 375mg | 100mg | 25mg | |
| 2 | 750 | 100 | 375 | 100 | 25 | |
| 3 | 750 | 100 | 375 | 100 | 25 | |
| 4 | 750 | 375 | 25 | 500iu | ||
| 5 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 6 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 7 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 8 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 9 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 10 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 11 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 12 | 750 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 13 | 600 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 14 | 600 | 375 | 500 | |||
| 15 | 600 | 500 | ||||
| 16 | 600 | 500 | ||||
| 17 | 400 | 500 | ||||
| 18 | 200 | 500 |
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AnonSteroids are like sex always use protection
VIT-V told you how to fix up your cycle for the last log you had. Roll with what he told you. You are still making this more complicated than it needs to be. Drop the DBol, drop the NPP and run your Test/Deca cycle with a prop kicker and taper.
I guess I'm asking why? What is the harm of kicking in your compounds fast? How is this different from just running a fast ester cycle? I am not new to this and work as an athlete. Are there actual negative consequences? Prop and dbol hard on blood pressure? My doses are relatively low on nandrolones and dbol.
What kind of an athlete are you? If you are asking whether prop 7 dbol raise blood pressure brother you are new to this. Also just because in the past you have not had prolactin sides and estrogen issues doesn't mean they won't suddenly appear. The body biochemistry changes continuously especially when introducing extra hormones. You can run whatever you want but why keep posting your cycle that those with far more expertise than you aren't going to validate?
Maybe the same sport as you judging by your name ;)
I know it raises BP that's why I asked... I'm specifically asking for people experienced in running prop and dbol together to see if it raised BP even more dramatically or in an unsafe manner. 25mg dbol and 100mg prop isn't crazy dosing.
No the prop isn't crazy but if you do what I do dbol is useless. In fact it is counter productive. I get the idea if you do what I do about using deca for the joints. But dbol is pointless and if you use it come back and let me know how good your grip is lol.
Plus dbol makes me feel like a champ hehe
Im done with high level competition and mostly instruct now. My goals are for muscle size now since I dont need to worry about weight classes. I know from experience that pretty much all AAS hurt my jiu jitsu but I can deal with it.
roughneck12Deca and NPP are the same compound. Just NPP is fast ester. Way to much. Cycle is horrible and made complicated. Need prolactin protection regardless of past experiences. PCT is how. No go brother and suggest simpler cycle. IMO Your way off and not ready. Don't run this.
Why do you say way too much? Its not that much nandrolone overall.
Do you need both Test P and the Dbol for a kicker? Why not just one or the other. Are you lowering your test E dose at the end to transition into PCT? Might be better to use the prop to taper into PCT if that is what you are trying to do. Just because you haven't had bad prolactin sides before doesn't mean you won't this cycle. Don't start it without any prolactin control on hand or your asking for trouble.
Its just a mild taper to avoid such a drop off which I totally felt last cycle. I could use prop to taper but i dont think its that hard to control the enan timing for pct. I do plan on getting some caber just in case but don't like to add things unless I really need it.
roughneck12X2 always have everything ready for the unthinkable. Yes his lower test should be a taper with prop but he ain't ready.
Looks much better than last time.. I'll let the vets weigh in on the details.