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+ 1 Firts Test E cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

age: 43
heigth: 1.75m
BF: approx. 20%
weight: 83kg

training at the moment: 3-5 times, olympic weightlifting, CrossFit
5 times training per week during the whole cycle

this will be my second cycle. My first cycle was Diana only.

expectations: build up lean muscle mass and go up with my conditioning, feel strong and invincible like
and in the good old days when I was 20!

Please feel free to comment, if there is something I should change,in your opinion.

I thank you in advance

L.

WeekTestosterone EAnastrazoleClomidNolvaBloodtest
1500mgbefore cycle
2500mg
3500mg0.25mg eod
4500mg0.25mg eod
5500mg0.25mg eod
6500mg0.25mg eodbloodtest
7500mg0.25mg eod
8500mg0.25mg eod
9500mg0.25mg eod
10500mg0.25mg eod
11500mg0.25mg eod
12500mg0.25mg eod
130.25mg eod
140.25mg eod
16100mg40mg
17100mg40mg
1850mg20mg
1950mg20mg
21bloodtest
PRE CYCLE PIC: 
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Guys, I am in week number 5 now. following my cycle plan as stated above, 500mg/week, 2 pins /week.
My sex drive went up since week 2, I got stronger, but not Hulk-style. I would have the same strength gains
without gear. Aggressiveness is normal, pump is normal. I checked the product, (Balkan), they seem to be legit. So I am quite disappointed. Now I don“t know, if I should continue with this cycle or stop it.
What is your experience, guys? Continue, stop, shall I try an other product?

I thank you in advance

L.

Cccrambone's picture

You aren't getting blood work?

I would be at the lab this week to see what my numbers were.

The Legend's picture

@Cccrambone I want to get blood work next week, but I wonder if I should...
Which parameter would be the most important ones?

Cccrambone's picture

I'm not expert, but I would get bloods.

Free/Total Testosterone

and the Female hormone panel.

i guess it depends where you are going for the tests?

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ok, thank you very much!

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Guys, a question! I inject the test twice a week into my shoulders. My shoulders feel like sore the whole
week. Is this normal? Do I do something wrong. Will this stay like this during the whole cycle?

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all gear is here now, I will start these days and give you a feedback at the end of the cycle.
Again, thank you for all your advices!

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Guys I am down to 19% BF and I keep working on it.
I have two questions:

  1. Should I frontload the test e and double the amount during the first week?
  2. Do I need HCG? This is my first cycle. If yes, how do you suggest to use it?

I thank you in advance

L.

vhman's picture

1). No. This is your first cycle, so just keep things simple. If you decide to cycle again, save front loading and/or tapers for 3rd - 4th cycles. No need at all to do it here.
2) No. You don't NEED it and should be fine for your first cycle. Again, being your first cycle, you need to see how you react to test and not add other things in that can give you sides (estro with hcg). Feel free to research it for your next cycle, but I would hold off for now.

jogibson14's picture

Have you intentionally left out HCG?

The Legend's picture

no....nobody suggested me to add HCG. Would you?

Idonntevenlift1988's picture

I hate test E mainly because of water retention. If i were you I'd do sutanon.

NoX's picture

Great! Awesome attitude! Now go teach all these other f#€£ers in the cycle logs how to listen!!!
Yes, ai looks right, but it's your 6 week blood test that will tell you what your own body needs for ai dosing on test--- hence running test only first cycle- getting to know your body and what you need for ai- not just this time, but your future cycles as well.
Great job my man!

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Hi Nox, thank you very much for your input! Ok, I will do the blood test.
Which parameters I have to care about especially?

NoX's picture

Alright homeboy, you still around? I sent fr. Hmu

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Guys, based on your inputs, I adapted the cycle and my diet. Any further suggestions?

NoX's picture

Now... What about bloods? Get them done before you start for a baseline, around week 6 to see if your ai is correctly dosed and not bunk( you do NOT know your body well enough to judge your ai by how you feel and sides) then get your bloodwork done a couple weeks after you finish pct to make sure you are back to normal.
Also I was advised to wait until week 3 to start my Adex, and I am glad I did. I started getting hot flashes, oily skin, and out of control libido second week... Then I started Adex .5 eod and felt those sides dissipate. After a week of .5, I was getting way less horny so I dropped to .25eod- now I feel great all around. ( I am going into week 6 of test only cycle and have bloods scheduled for Thursday)
I 100% agree with rolltide here and advise you to lock in your diet and train down closer to 10% body fat before you start.

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The Legend's picture

Thank you for your feedback NoxX! So, you think, to start with 0.25 Anastrazole eod from week 3 on is a good start?

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Thank you very much Nox!
So bloods, before the cycle, then 6 weeks in the cycle and a few weeks after pct.
You think I should start the Adex from week 3, and lower the dosage down to 0.25 right?
Why wait till week 3 and not right from the start?

oversteerisbest's picture

Test E is has a longer half life ester (12 days) and so it will be into the 3rd week before your plasma concentrations are high enough for aromatization to be a concern. You can start low dose of adex in week 2 if you want but if you take the ai before there is enough e2 in your system to warrant it, you will crush your estrogen levels, feel like garbage, your joints will hurt 24/7 and you wont make good gains.

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thank you very much for this information!!!!

NoX's picture

Thank you sir for answering that for me. Perfect explanation. I would +1 if I could

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jlandry's picture

Take Clomid And Nolvadex Together Starting 2 Weeks After Your Last Shot Of Test.

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ok jlandry, thank you very much! I will have my last test shot in week 14, two weeks later, in week 16
I will start with clomid and nolvadex.

rolltide3's picture

Your first couple cycles are test only? Second before u start this I would get your diet in check and drop to at least 15 percent body fat. Starting so high of body fat the sides become much greater.there is no magic pill or shot that will make your conditioning better except diet and cardio. If u give yourself a couple months and cut your body fat u will be setting your next cycle up for success. Typical first cycle are test e or c for 12 weeks at 400 ta 500 range a week. U need bloods done before, bout week six, then after.op this is your first real cycle a cycle of dbol is big no no. No orals only cycle .test is the foundation of everything that's why its important for u to run a could cycles of just test. To understand how your body reacts with test how your body handles estro sides.

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@ rolltide3, I checked my bodyfat and I am way to high, around 30%!!
So I adapted my meal plean and working towards 15% body fat.
As soon as I am down there, I start the cycle, right?

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Yep that's a great starting point brother get yourself in better shape. U will thank us later lol. The sides are so much worse on u with higher body fat like blood pressure and estro sides. Good luck u are setting yourself up for complete success :-) plus one

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thanks a lot!!!!

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Thank you for your feedback rolltide3! I wanted to start with the Dianabol till the Test kicks in...
My first cycle, years ago, was Dianabol only.
So this time I wanted to try test. I thought the eq would helph to further develop my conditioning
as I work already on it. So you say to go for a test only cycle for 12 weeks, and see how my body
reacts on it, right?

The pct is ok like this?

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