posted Sun, 01/12/2014 - 10:05
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-1 First Tren Cycle, Suggestions Please
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age: 28
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 170
BF%: 7-8% (probably a little closer to 10, measured with a caliper at home)
Was gonna go with Tren, now I am just gonna roll with test. I have done 4 or 5 other cycles, Test, Sust, and things of that nature but I have never done Tren. It's pretty basic, so if anyone has any suggestions, it is appreciated.
**Will include organ support for the Dbol
| Week | Test E | Clomid | Nolvadex | Dianabol | Arimidex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg 250e3d | 25mg ed | |||
| 2 | 500mg | 25mg | |||
| 3 | 500mg | 25mg | 0.5mg e3d | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 25mg | 0.5mg | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 6 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 7 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 8 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 10 | 500mg | 0.5mg | |||
| 11 | |||||
| 12 | |||||
| 13 | 100mg | 40mg | |||
| 14 | 100mg | 40mg | |||
| 15 | 50mg | 20mg | |||
| 16 | 50mg | 20mg |
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For those who provided their input and advice, I thank you. I assure anyone who thinks that I am lying, I am not. I was 190lbs at 6%bf, look closely at the precycle picture, on my shoulder you'll see stretch marks from losing the weight. I have both my diet and training in check now. The other cycles were learning experiences, and I lost 90% of what I made. That is why I ask this forum. I would not lie to the people giving me advice, that's a good way to get myself fucked up and waste a lot of my time and money. I know AAS can be serious and I take them seriously. I do not know everything but I do research and all I ask is for input to point me in the right direction or even a negative opinion is helpful(as long as it's not offensive). It's helpful because it shows me how strongly people feel about Tren. Again Thank you to those who have supplied their input and helped me out.
Edit your cycle above and take out the tren. Post up what you've learned and get some advice from there. There are lots of people willing to help, as you can see below. Lots of passion for things done right! Glad you've decided to steer clear of tren, because it's wise advice.
RustyhookerYour proposed cycle is flat out a bad idea. Whats your goals? If bulking you gotta work that diet bigger n better. Many simpler cycles will add mass without trens BS hard shutdown.
juicememoreI dont believe that he has done 4-5 cycles previously and weighs 170 and looks like that. He's either lying or had bunk gear every time lol! & he said he didnt know why test had to be used a base for every cycle.. seriously smh
RustyhookerI agree. Something very basic would pump him up without that hard shutdown.
I ran tren e and test e on my 2nd cycle. 300mg/week of tren, 300mg/week of test pinning eod. GREAT gains. I ran this cycle for a while, like at least 14 weeks long. I feel to get the hardening effect tren offers it needs to be run for a while, but what do I know. didn't do a pct after either lol, shit was pretty rough for a month or so. ik ik people are g2 hate and say im a dumbass but wutevs I looked fab. haahahahahaha
roughneck12(Shame on you. Could not even research before and use Ace. I see nothing funny about flipping out and milking 2 wks. I see why members are banging there brain's out over cycle's. Public execution. I never knew that a private one exist. All mine went public slaughter. I like fear tactics. Public execution.)
juicememoreyou're a dumbass. haahahahahaha. seriously though get some bloods or something to make sure you are ok
Thank you everyone for the suggestions. It definitely helps me in making a final decision and planning an appropriate cycle.
8 weeks 100 mg test p and 100 mg mast p eod injection. i run ari .25 e3d if needed.
dont run so much bro, that's to much. And try ace before enanthate... SL
BillLumberghWhat's your goal and why are you wanting to run tren?
You're lean as hell(leaner than I'll ever be!)but you've ran 5 cycs and you're 170. Maybe you want to be that size and lean, but you have it now. If you wanna be bigger than going to more Advanced AAS isn't the solution and everyone on the site knows it. Calories in calories out.
Good luck bro.
FoolMeOnceDont listen to machinek. By no means were your intentions disrespectful. I understand where your coming from so im going to help you lay this out. Before doing so I truly hope you do have other cycle experience and have an idea on how your body reacts to hormones. Especially considering tren can and will fuck you up.
For your first tren cycle I would not consider exceeding 6 weeks. I highly recommend just running 4 weeks of tren to feel it out. 4 weeks run Tren Ace at no more than 400mg. I highly sugguest just starting with 300mg for the 4 weeks. Your test dosing and duration is fine. As far as prami goes ALWAYS start low and taper up as needed, based on your lactation. Make sure you dont forget an AI during cycle starting at week 2. I would also recommend getting some t3 to run for the duration of tren. 20-35mcg daily would be fine.
Really now?! I guess you didn't take me seriously (I can understand that though cuz EVERYONE knows Hllwds just a warm and fuzzy kitten) GOOD BYE YOUNGSTER!
Deisel: this KID is just that, a KID, and you would be a FOOL to take any advice form him... Lay off the tren for awhile bro there are MANY compounds to learn about and experiment with before TREN... and T3's a serious thyroid medication so don't fuck with it!
I saw this last night and knew this was coming. Unfortunately it was Long overdue with this youngster. Stupid is as stupid does.
Thank you for the advice.
RustyhookerThyroid is flat ha!ardous advice youngster.
dredayNo offense but how are u givin out cycle advice ?
FoolMeOnceIs there anything from the advice id given you can even correct, or are you just being a douche?
YOU ARE 19 !!! VIKING WARNED YOU TO STOP GIVING OUT ADVICE!! WHY DO YOU CONTINUE???
FoolMeOnceRegardless of age the advice was sound, if you cant correct the advice then keep to yourself.
Lol your like a moth to the flame dude! It's like you can't help yourself as if your addicted to doling out shit in these logs.
And your right, I can't give advice on Tren because I don't have the experience so guess what, I DON'T !
Thyroid suppression at 4 weeks of tren ace at 50mg a day?? C'mon bro...that's not sound advice
FoolMeOnceIs it bad advice? Enough to the point where everyone needs to start a riot on his page? Just leave me the fuck alone bro.
No riot but the use of t3 with tren ace at that duration and dose is completely unnecessary
FoolMeOnceUnnecessary? Maybe. Will it hurt? No. Is it bad advice? No. Also how can you determine how his thyroid levels will respond to 4 weeks of tren?
Well considering I've ran ace at 120mg Ed for 8 weeks and it didn't effect mine I can advise him of this. And unnecessary use of thyroid meds is not smart at all...took me more than 6 weeks to regain function after my last competition on a low dose of it
FoolMeOnceCould be wrong, but im interpreting this as you are implying genetics dont vary from person to person so since you ran tren at 120mg ed for 8 weeks and your thyroid wasnt effected his wont be either.
juicememorebro at least levelup has a leg to stand on where he actually has experience using both compounds, how much experience do you have? Im fairly sure that peoples thyroids genetics arent massively different when it comes to responding to hormones. unless they have pre existing condition that is..
FoolMeOnceIve ran 4 cycles of tren and ive used t3 3 of them. Levelups just mad I made a valid point. And yes t3 levels do vary greatly. One of my friends has hyper thyroid levels and must eat a minimum of 6000 calories to maintain his weight. Where as someone may have hypo thyroid levels and need therapy. So to say that this guy doesnt need t3 based off your own experiences is a newb advice. He should experiment to see how he responds.