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First cycle

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

6'1" 210, 23

Updated:

Test E 250mg Monday/Thursday for 12 weeks. Aromasin will be dosed at 6.25mg ED starting at week 3 and switching to 6.25 EoD at week 17. Two weeks after last test dose Toremifene Citrate at 120/80/60/30 and clomid are 100/100/50/50.

Concerns: Is my PCT alright?

Additional equipment on hand: Nolva, Letro (I've used Clomid/Nolva on PH PCT but have never used Toremifene)

WeekTestosterone EnanthateAromasinToremifene CitrateClomid
1500mg
2500mg
3500mg6.25mg
4500mg6.25mg
5500mg6.25mg
6500mg6.25mg
7500mg6.25mg
8500mg6.25mg
9500mg6.25mg
10500mg6.25mg
11500mg6.25mg
12500mg6.25mg
136.25mg
146.25mg
156.25mg120mg100mg
166.25mg80mg100mg
176.25mg EoD60mg50mg
186.25mg EoD30mg50mg
j223's picture

Looks good.

Charliefly1's picture

OK thank-you for the advise. Ill drop the frontload and drop it down to 12 weeks.

Nooch21's picture

Whats your goals ? What made you decide on running your cycle for 14 weeks? And why no clomid in your pct?

Charliefly1's picture

My goals for this cycle would be to increase strength and gain mass while discovering testosterones etffect on my body. I decided on 14 weeks because it is my understanding that long esters don't kick in until about week 6 and without a prop taper or dbol kicker to get the effects right away I figured extending a couple weeks wouldn't be a huge issue. As for the clomid I was not sure how to combine that with toremifene.

Nooch21's picture

Well to be honest i dont know to much about torem but i have heard good things about it. Now im not the type that likes to step out of the box when it comes to getting my balls restored so i stick to the pct that has worked for people time and time again with blood work that proves it works which is nolva clomid and aromasin. Now the 14 scratch that brother 12 weeks is plenty for your first cycle test e kicks in around week 4 every cycle is geared around having 8 weeks of muscle building. Prop kicks in within the first week thats why a prop cycle is 8 weeks long test e kicks in round week 4 there for a 12 week cycle yields 8 weeks of growing. Same goes for all compounds. First cycle should be made easy as possible i have to give you credit for just wanting to run test e to see how your body reacts you should see some of the cycles first timers come on here saying there going to do. Now remember keys to growing and staying big from most important to least. Pct, diet, lifting, gear. In that order everyrhing needs to be in place and gear is last. Now heres a cycle layout i'd advise you doing.

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week split between two shots once every three and a half days.
Aromasin these dosages can be played with in order to find your sweet spot some people say do 12.5 eod i personally like 6.25 eod to start i always like starting low and if i have to go higher so
6.25 eod itchy sore nips occur then 12.5 eod if there still there then 12.5 ed and adjust from there. This is where blood work is key to figuring out your sweet spot
Now you can choose what you want for pct but im going to leave you with great reads for you to look over. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/announcing-gc...

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-and-aromasin

Also join dossier31 beginner cycles group heres the link

http://www.eroids.com/og/beginner-cycles

If anything pops up on cycle post in there and you will get all the help you need hope this helps bro

Charliefly1's picture

Thank-you for all of the info and the links. I read posts claiming that guys that ran torem recovered faster and better thank withgod nolva but I guess who really knows without the labs. I have poked around the beginner cycle group and that's where I got the base for this cycle. I just tried to push it a little. Haha at least I'm not thinking about running tren and var right? Anyways thanks again.

Charliefly1's picture

Thanks for the input. I'm pretty set on it though.

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