posted Wed, 02/24/2016 - 15:17
2020
+ 3 EQ/Test/Deca Kick
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
At the moment I am 5'9 and about 190lbs, 31 years old. I am very lean, with probably 6-8% body fat. This will be my 5th or 6th cycle, and am looking for some feedback. I have run all the gear I'm running in this cycle in the past, just never compounded like this or in this order. What do you guys think of the following?
| Week | Test Sus/eod | D-Bol | EQ/ every 3 days | nolva | clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 50mg/ED | 900mg split into 3 for the wk | ||
| 2 | 600mg | 50mg/ED | 600mg | ||
| 3 | 600mg | 50mg/ED | 600mg | ||
| 4 | 600mg | 50mg/ED | 600mg | ||
| 5 | 600mg | 50mg/ED | 600mg | ||
| 6 | 600mg | 25mg/ED | 600mg | ||
| 7 | 600mg | 600mg | |||
| 8 | 600mg | 600mg | |||
| 9 | 600mg | 600mg | |||
| 10 - 16 | 800mg | 600mg | |||
| 17 | 600mg | ||||
| 20 - 22 | 50mg/ed | 100mg/ed | |||
| 22 - 23 | 25mg/ed | 50mg/ed |
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AnonPersonally I don't like deca, dbol, or eq. More of an NPP and tbol/drol person. My suggestion just run sust with a tbol pulse for a cleaner look while keeping diet on point. Simpler IMO. Liver supports on hand also just in case.
When was the last time you ran a cycle? What you are doing with the EQ and Deca doesn't make any sense. Pick one or the other if need be and run it for the proper duration.
Smithy5840Fair enough. Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm cutting out the deca, and going to replace it with EQ, so that I am running EQ throughout the whole cycle instead. I was thinking that I am going to front load the EQ though. What do you guys think of mg/wk relative to the EQ for the cycle? After the front load, do you think 400mg is sufficient? I have ran Test and EQ in the past, about 4 years ago. It was roughly the same dose, but I was also taking Proviron. I had decent results, which is what brings me back to the EQ. I didn't front load it at that time though. I also wasn't stacking D-bol on it either. Also, it might be helpful to let you guys know that my last cycle was about 1 year ago, and it was only test... about 550mg/wk. With the changes I've now mentioned, what do you guys think about this cycle?
If you can, up the EQ to about 600mg/wk. That's then a nice little test / EQ run where you'll steadily gain and hold onto if your diet and pct are solid.
Smithy5840Thanks for the feedback. I feel like I am starting to really hone in on a good cycle now. Thanks to all you guys. I trimmed the amount of test I back 200mg/wk to 600mg/wk. From reading other posts, that seems to be sufficient. No need to use more than I absolutely need. I also, at your suggestion and research, upped the EQ to 600mg/wk and changed the PCT. How does this look to you guys? I was also wondering what you guys think of running an A.I. with this cycle, and if so which one at what dosage? I am more interested in doing things correctly and in a healthy manner than just throwing a load of compounds in my body that people have told me "work" for big gains. Do you agree with the reduction in test and modification of PCT? Thanks again! Cheers mate!
RustyhookerWhats your main goal here? I see you're lean, so is it adding 15 solid? Are you ectomorph given stats?
Smithy5840Yes, I am trying to add size and strength. But I want as clean an increase as possible. I am an ectomorph, and putting on weight can be a challenge, especially when I am not vigilant with my diet. I would really like to be putting on 15-20lbs of good, quality, size, that I can keep most of when my cycle ends. I am trying to stay away from too much on orals and really harsh oils like Tren, because I don't want to destroy my liver and suffer all the sides associated with some of the more potent oils and orals.
Your profile says 25. Clarify please.
It's a bit higher than that in those pics, 10 ish I'd say.
Quite difficult to see what you're doing with compounds / how much / when ever c due to the way you've laid it out. Can you tidy up / clarify?
Smithy5840I did edit the profile age. Hadn't realized that it was 25 when i signed up, but my correct age is 31. My goals are to put on quality mass and increase strength. I have designed this cycle (hopefully) to kick start size growth and strength in the beginning of the cycle with the test, deca and dbol, and then to switch to the test and EQ to maintain those gains, and continue growing at a slower, but safer rate. I was also thinking about adding in some HCG at the end of the cycle, because this is a alot of compounds going in and I am sure that my balls would appreciate it. I have used the EQ in previous cycles at about 500 mg eod stacked with test sus 400mg eod, and proviron 50mg ed. That cycle was about 12 weeks. I had excellent results, but was unable to run proper PCT due to circumstances out of my control, despite pre-planning it. It wasn't fun recovering from that, I ended up losing quite a bit of what I had worked so hard for. However, that was about 4 years ago. As far as more details about this cycle goes, I will be running the test sus at 400mg eod, the deca every 4th day, and then the EQ every 3rd or 4th day as well, relative the weeks that I said that I would be using them (above original chart). I hope this helps to clarify, but if you want/need more info to provide feedback, I am happy to oblige. Thanks mate!
I was looking at it on my phone, assume that's why it looked all fked up as it looks fine now.
Ok, so there's a lot if work to do here. The deca and EQ are useless for those short runs. Have a look around the site, loads of good reading on both. Both of those compounds need to be run at least twice the length you're proposing.
Looks like you're making it too complicated in your head, hence the deca then EQ. Several paths available to you here. Test / deca, test / EQ. Seems like you're trying to do a mixture of both.
If you need help, drop me a line. Loads of info here for you to digest so take advantage of it. Sure the guys will drop in to help you out too.
Smithy584012 weeks of EQ = not worth it? i see your point with deca, but i have done quite a bit of reading, which is actually why i am proposing this as cycle. From what I understand, Deca and EQ are similar, although I also am appreciating that they are different compounds. This is why I have suggested running them in turn with a brief over lap. Deca being slightly more powerful and potent when it comes to building size (as well as sides) and the EQ giving me the slow, steady, results the rest of the cycle. The deca, being a long ascting ester will obviously still be in my system for quite some time after I stop pinning it. However, if you still say that the runs of both the EQ and the deca here are too short, what change would suggest? Perhaps keeping the cycle the same except to: Eliminate the Deca, and run EQ the whole cycle at 400mg wk (200 every 3rd day) up until two weeks before I stop the test? I would really like to develop a cycle that incorporates the deca and EQ into it, but I'm sure as to what, exactly, that would look like.... hence my post here. Thanks for the quick feedback!
Cheers Mate!
Ok - some pointers here as you've not seen much traffic.
12 weeks of EQ isn't worth it, it will barely be noticeable by the time you drop it. 16-18wk+
Deca and EQ similar? Not sure where you got that from, they are nothing alike other than they are both steroids. Quite a bizarre comparison to be honest! Have a read up on what they were designed to do in the medical / veterinary world.
PCT with the nolva and clomid timings is all messed up. Take a look at some even simple cycles posted up here to see how a standard pct is typically laid out.
I'll sit back and let others throw their hat in for a bit and check back tomorrow to see how you're getting on.