posted Sun, 01/05/2014 - 11:24
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+ 5 Eq only Cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
The cycle will start on Monday January 6th, 2014. I have no real concerns as a few have done it before. I am doing this cycle so I can see for myself what this compound does as a standalone. Afterwards if I like what I found; I will incorporate it into another cycle of some sort to be determined at a later date. I am on TRT so no worries about PCT. I have phenyl prop and TNE on hand in case I lose my libido or start to feel depressed and angry.
STATS:
Age: 41
Weight: 209; now down to 203 starting week 3.
Height: Hobbit or 5' 7"
Experience: TRT
BF: Carrying an overnight bag in my stomach or 18% (There's muscle hidden in that there roll)
| Week | Equipose 300 | Testosterone Cypionate |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 625mg | |
| 2 | 625mg | |
| 3 | 350mg | |
| 4 | 350mg | |
| 5 | 350mg | |
| 6 | 350mg | |
| 7 | 350mg | |
| 8 | 350mg | |
| 9 | 350mg | |
| 10 | 350mg | |
| 11 | 350mg | |
| 12 | 350mg | |
| 13 | 350mg | |
| 14 | 350mg | |
| 15 | 250mg | |
| 16 | 250mg | |
| 17 | 125mg |
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So how is it working?
Well, funny you ask. I ran into a problem the last week. because my strength and endurance is increasing I am having some serious sore muscle issues lol. Yesterday I did a heavy leg workout, squats, leg presses hamstring pullers, and today I had a serious hard time walking. I switched up my routine to stop myself from plateauing and now every muscle is sore. My weight has been a little inconsistent but now has stayed steady at 208 even with the addition of 50 grams extra of carbs post workout. it's fair to say the EQ is doing its thing because my vascularity has increased as well and muscles I never saw popping out such as the ones in the rear of my delts have started to say hello. My appetite is still through the roof so I have a protein shake before I go to bed at 11 and find myself waking up at 4AM and having something to eat too because my stomach is growling. I thought I was having a libido problem so I did some TNE to no effect and it was not my libido; it's my anxiety because I took a sedative the day after taking the TNE and I was like a horny school boy peeking in the ladies locker room. So far I am loving it; enough that I might not want to include it in another cycle because of how much I like it and with like comes love and I have other compounds to test out. I'm going to finish up this cycle and shelf it to try something else I haven't tried before. In this game it's finding something that works and then sticking to it so I found one that works and now I need to see if something else will too right? getting carpal tunnel so I'll stop now lol
Right on. You gonna get bloods before you switch?
Indeed. I need to know where I am at at the end so I can judge accordingly. Just because I may feel great does not mean my body's internals agree.
I'm interested to see your results here brotha, +2 for the research. Only thing I see that I might hange is waiting two weeks after your last eq dose to start your cruise again. I think this may cause a significant down period with essentially nothing in your system for the first week or two after resuming test. IMO you may experience less negative sides if you restarted your cruise the next week after the eq injection...just an observation. Please report back and let us know how it goes
Good point, I would hate to be successful and crash hard at the tail end. Will do and thanks!
RustyhookerAgree!
Watching very very closely brother......... good luck +3
I love pioneers and will back you all the way with this run.
What truly inspired me to do this was the post you made on the subject of EQ as a standalone. Like i said this only the beginning of week 2 and I haven't changed anything besides no trt dose of test and I added a few things to my diet. I added oats and whole grains; rabbit and pheasant; no red meat, chicken breats and salmon, Talapia; so I could get some really lean protein.
LiebowMe I cant handle Test at all, its a death sentence for me. My own natty Test is enough as it is. Synthetic just makes me ill, and in a terrible state. You'll find buckets of broscience that you MUST use Test with every cycle. Ive tried this and found myself better without it, same as no PCT. I just finished a looooong EQ cycle myself. Its quality stuff. In a high dose for a long time, your laughing providing its good quality. Dry lean gains, good strength, no estro, some mild EPO effects, sometimes appetite increases.... its my favourite cycle runner. If your worried about libido, throw in some Proviron instead mate.
Running test every cycle is real science bro. I wouldnt say its a must but it is important.
LiebowIts not real science though is it, its just a compound like any other that either suits/work for you or it doesn't. Look at me, even 125mg of Test. Just a smidgen like that. Bloated, hi-BP, acne, shortness of breath, aggression/bad temper, libido-decrease, fat gain, loss of appetite, oily skin, low mood - to mention some of the sides I get from Test. So tell me the real science for ME running Test and its benefits vs negatives? You cant. Because how I react is how I react, and that's how it works for me as all meds work differently for everyone. A lot of people, like myself, go for Test-free cycles and have enormous success without it. Try it, and see. I prefer to give out information based on my own findings and my own experience - rather than spouting the same sort of lingo that everyone says because they heard someone else say it. No offence to you mate, but running Test every cycle isn't real science - its your opinion, not a fact.
I base my info on consultation with a doctor and research. Testosterone performs many functions in your body not just muscle building and labido and although Equipoise is a derivative of test and performs similar its not test and doesnt perform the same or all the functons of test. Injectable synthetic testosterone is the exact chemical make up as your bodies own testosterone. In conclusion even though your body reacts poorly with high doses of test when your natural test shuts down due to the eq you should at least run a small dose of test with your stack. In reality its your body and you should do what you want but your logic is flawed.
LiebowI don't go by logic, I go by what works for me. And for that matter, nothing is flawed in what Im doing as its first hand findings and testing with positive outcomes. On the other hand, you have gone by a Doctor and some "research" - making your info 2nd hand as far as Im concerned, plus research and "doctors" are forever changing. 'Parrot fashion' looks cheap when compared to talking about your personal knowledge and experience (like Im doing). How my body reacts is my living proof/evidence. For me personally, when I ran EQ, I still had libido and a good mood and good nights sleep. Same as Tren, same as Deca. For me, through my findings, Test isn't the med for me - even though tons of people I know love the stuff and wont do nothing without it. Advice: Everyone is different in how they react with drugs.
Might want to research that just a little more. Equipose was made by accident when they were looking for a stronger longer version of Dbol and they made EQ. It is not testosterone in a scientific sense of the word; but it is by derivitive. Only 1 study existed on the use of Equipose on the human body and then it was discontinued. The most recent one was done on rabbits. The test done on humans was with no other compound but EQ. EQ is not Tren or Deca where you absolutely must run another compound. It is only advised through Bro scientists as there is no SOLID scientific proof of that. Should you run it with test? maybe. Should you run without it? Why the hell not?
LiebowExactly. Lets not forget the classic cycle of Deca & Dbol - which supported androgenic features as well as anabolism. Although you should try Tren solo - with maybe a little Proviron in there. Its amazing! Something for the future maybe
best of luck in this mate. I know I loved EQ despite the brotalk of it being "worthless"....
Let's not get fkn pushy there pal, lol. I have to complete this EQ only 1st; see how I am at the end, then wait a few months and do a Tren cycle. I have some vets who have my back for it so if anything happens there I have backup as well.
LiebowSuggesting something for the future, if you like the solo EQ, is being pushy?
I was being funny man.
I said it was a derivitive, and I am going by what a doctor said. If you do or don't I have nothing to gain either way. I don't need to do more research cause I will never do a cycle without test. I was just trying to help.
your help is appreciated, trust me.
But I am running test, of the vet variety.
LiebowYep :-D LOL
Ive enjoyed the Cattle variety many times, and it works magic. Toxic libido and gains I might add!
Had to update the cycle amount for weeks 1 and 2; since the gear is rated at 250 I did 2.5ml to make it 625.
Gear was injected after sitting in hot water for 3 minutes. Was so smooth going in I had to pin slower with a 25 gauge. You cant judge gear by how smooth it goes in because fkn olive oil could go in smooth as well.
Very nice. Why only 350 and not say 800?
Well; from everything I read 300 was the minimum to get any gains so I went to 350. I don't want to do 800 because this is a "dry" run and from what I see 400 or more will cause me to want to eat my house.
Have you thought about keeping just trt dose of test?
I thought about it a few times. I want to run the EQ alone to make sure any gains I get are from the EQ and not a combination. I have prop just in case I start to crash though and my buddy brought me over some TNE. EVERYONE I read about says they took it with test and then one person says anything under 400 is a waste while another person says 600 e.t.c e.t.c A 1000 pound horse needs 500mg every 2 weeks of EQ. Why the hell would I want more then a 1000 pound horse? Apples to oranges I know lol. Since very few have done it without test I figured what the hell.
I think its great. You know the risks and you are prepared for it. Can not wait to hear the results. My next cycle is going to be eq var test.
Can I ask what one shot of test cyp would b for that's a long ester makes no sense ran eq several times and u will love it if u add some test in there and make it at 16 weeks a lot of guys go minimal of 16 weeks with eq