posted Sun, 09/23/2012 - 22:00
2449
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
would like to maintain around 12lbs after cycle as well as as have a bench press of 250 and a squat of 300lbs with a deadlift of around 200 with perfect form.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Dianabol | Nolvadex | clomid | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 30mg a day | 12.5mg eod | ||
| 2 | 500mg | 30mg a day | 12.5mg eod | ||
| 3 | 500mg | 30mg a day | 12.5mg eod | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 30mg a day | 12.5mg eod | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 6 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 7 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 8 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 10 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 11 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 12 | 500mg | 12.5mg eod | |||
| 13 | 12.5mg eod | ||||
| 14 | 12.5mg eod | ||||
| 15 | 40mg/day | 100mg/day | |||
| 16 | 40mg/day | 100mg/day | |||
| 17 | 20mg/day | 50mg/day | |||
| 18 | 20mg/day | 50mg/day | |||
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quick question guys, if i were to run this cycle again would the aromasin be started at week 3 instead of week 1 like i have here? I ask this because i have seen it that way well viewing other members logs.
zewiLooks good
1jakd_hipyPerfect bro
Whats your stats? Cycle experience? Ai? Pct needs review
first cycle, no AI, was considering one but now that I am half way through the cycle
I decided to start using aromasin at 12.5mg eod during my next cycle. I am using the
nolvadex for gyno for now I did get puffy nipples. The reason why the PCT looks like
that is because of nolvadex that I got from a research chem place that came in 40mg
capsules (when purchased i thought they would be pills i could cut in half but came
as capsules)I have sarcoplex nolva in 10mg form but not enough for the whole pct. my
original plan for pct was clomid 50/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 20/20/10/10/10/10. This
PCT was taken from steroidolgy.com (http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard...)
I also was reading a stickied post at t-nation that suggests to run PCT like this
when doing a standard cycle (12weeks test/with optional dbol)
W 12 Nolva 20mg 2x/D
W 13-15 Nolva 20mg/D
W 16-20 Tribulus (optional)
however i beleive that a nolva/clomid pct combo would be more effective after researching.
My stats are as follows age:22 Weight:152 height: 5 foot 6 bodyfat: 9%
lifts: Bench one rep max 230lbs
Squat: have done 225x10
bent over row: 150 for reps
deadlift: had the form down very good when I was younger had my dead up to 250 now I have lower back pain now and am working on form with lighter weights.
Thank you for your concern with my PCT let me know how I can make it better if you dont mind. I appreciate it
Good luck buddy. Live n learn. First off aromasin should be in your hand right now. Nolva stops gyno....aromasin stops the estro that'd attacking your whole body/gains. You also shoyld have natty bulked with food to at least 185. Pct is nolva/clomid stack. Dbol is a bad one on first cycle because you're now fighting estro. Best be ordering aromasin and letro right now. Dbol is king at making Nice nipples for mens and you're fully unprepared to fight it.
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
I can change my nolva to the 40/40/20/20 and my clomid the same at the 50/50/50/50 thank you for the advice. But there is no need to say "live and learn" and "good luck buddy" estrogen is also not known to hinder gains, I have actually heard the opposite that taken an ai or even the nolvadex im running may have a negative effect on building muscle. estrogen plays a role in the production of growth hormone (http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroids-bodybuilding-article...) and although I would still probably run the AI next time around not running one for this cycle shouldn't have any negatives to it besides, High blood pressure and having a more bloated look.
Thank you again for looking over my cycle. If you have any sources for where you got that pct from and why it is superior to mine please post the link.
1jakd_hipyYou are correct that zero estrogen will hinder gains but so will too much, not running an AI is silly. Estrogen must be controlled and your PCT is not high enough. But judging from your attitude you aren't going to listen so as fast48 said "live and learn" and "good luck buddy" hope you don't mind dropping 3 grand on gyno surgery
would you reccomend the same pct as fast48 reccomends and why,also im not understanding how you would even get gyno when using the nolvadex, which blocks estrogen from binding to receptors.
Estrogen floats the bloodstream. Same with nutrients and male steroids like testosterone. Just because you're attempting to save your nipples from growing breast tissue (males have that capacity) doesn't change the fact the estrogen is still fliwing thru your bloodstream. Estrogen when its high causes catabolic behavior. Ie :lack of muscle growth. Slightly high estro assists in growth by the water loading it causes to a point. But you kicked with dbol and fact is that right now your estro is well over 200. Catabolic state.
1jakd_hipyYes I would recommend the same as fast also do away with that nova mid cycle add a proper AI (like Adex or aromasin week 4 to pct) that amount of nolva won't prevent all estrogen from binding, especially when you start running bigger cycles(might as well learn the proper way to cycle now). Also, you run AI to prevent all estrogen related sides to include the nasty bloat and acne you're gonna get from that Dbol
1jakd_hipyAnd you should always have letro on hand in case the worst should happen
the letro on hand sounds like a good idea. I may order more clomid to up my first two weeks of pct. how do you feel about 20mg/day for the nolvadex if i am unable to get an AI?
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thanks man, i ordered from one of the top three for my extra nolvadex early this month. got my order within 2 days! but after reading reviews saying that there stuff is underdosed it worries me. any one know of how the melt down test is preformed on the nolva?
Im going to put in an order tmr for aromasin 12.5 and clomid 50mg , thanks for being patient eroids is always looking out for me lol
how would you reccomend using the aromasin 12.5mg per day or every other day? i have read 12.5 eod also would you still run 10mg nolva with it to make sure theres no issues at all with gyno
1jakd_hipyRun the Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD no need for anything else, just make sure to have letro on hand just in case. And if you ordered from MP my personal opinion is to throw it away and order from another. PM me if you need a recommendation
I may be stupid cause i cant figure out how to pm! but im going to go with extreme. hope this goes well.
1jakd_hipyGood choice
just placed my order : i have purchased one of each I will update my "cycle log" tmr showing aromasin at 12.5mg eod. I will keep you guys updated on the arrival of my package. Thanks for helping out guys.
Clomiphene 50mg x 30ml
Exemestane 25mg x 30ml
Letrozole 2.5mg x 30ml
Tamoxifen Citrate 20mg x 30ml
1jakd_hipyGood call, keep us updated with your progress and if you can afford it have blood work done
the aromasin,letro,extra nolva, and extra clomid all came in today
they were packaged great.
will do !
Everyone just wants to see folks reach their goals. Grow well!