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  • EditCJCDAC, GHRP-6, Sust, Dbol, Tren, Deca

  • Hoagie22   •   Sat, Dec 1st, '18 09:35   •   12 replies, 311 views

Cycle layout

Description, concerns and expectations

First had a lot of great suggestions from Friends on here for future cycles and will be trying them out in future so please don’t think I didn’t listen...

Been running HGH for last 2.5 months. Wanted to prime the body as much as possible with tightening up nutrition (macros), give the HGH some time to do it’s thing, get down to 8-9%bf then go into cycle. That time is now.

Goals:
Currently at 206, 10%bf. I keep fluctuating between 9–11% over the last 4-6 weeks and holding steady at 206, so with some minor tweaks in nutrition, i feel my body is ready to go.

Want to add size with cycle, 215-220 and realistically want to retain size after cycle around 210-215. However, I do not want to look puffy or fluffy. I will sacrifice for the short term but really going to be on top of the water retention the best I can be. Hate going from hard to softer, just looks terrible in my books but enivitable sometimes.

I switched from HGH to CJCDAC purely for cost reasons and added GHRP-6 as a syngery effect. Continuing this for at least 7-8 more months. Have also been taking Cardarine (10mg morning and 10mg hour before pre workout days) and it’s awesome to see over time how it’s just burning up the fat and leaving a harder/relief look.

Sooo...here we go. I’m used to longer AAS cycles and longer esters but this one will be a quick 10weeks. I’m adding Sustanon at lower dose of 500/mg week (10weeks), Dbol 40mg/day (spaced 20mg morning, 20mg) for 4 weeks, Tren 300mg (10weeks) Deca 300mg (8weeks). I have run tren and deca before together and don’t exhibit any shut down issues that some have, and keep the dosage spread out during the week.

On cycle support
Aromasin. Bloods will be checked at week 4, week 8 then post.

Pct
clomid 150/100/75/50
Letro on hand, possibly .25/E3D depending on levels
toremifene citrate on hand, I’ve had great results pct with this versus clomid so I might switch it, not sure.
Ostarine(20mg/day) has always been awesome PCT too.

I take milk thistle, drink BCAA, drink a good amount of water, can always be more, I use food app during cycles to make sure optimizing diet.

Looking forward to seeing some results. Will post any sides or changes made along the way. As much as like to see the progress, I hate adding selfie pictures but guess it’s necessary to document the changes...so sorry for the double selfies

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Comments

  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
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Just being realistic here but 10-15 lbs of lbm in 10 wks, isn't going to happen. 10 wk cycle and you are going with sust and deca?? Strange choice. You also don't like lookiing puffy but have deca and dbol in the cycle. Cycle isn't optimized for goals. Prop/npp/adrol seems like a much better alternative. Don't see the addition of tren helping here.

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  • Gymfoam86
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  • @Makwa

Adrol is appersntly a better alternative to everything, cause i very recently tried it... and it alone has some amazing effects... w that dhb cyp... gna b awsome

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  • Hoagie22
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I decided to drop the tren, even tho I absolutely love tren but didn’t start it yet, so it will take a back seat in this scenario.

Reason being, taking my own dumb advice below about trying things separately and how the react, after researching more, I have never run peptides really while on cycle. Talking bout the CJCDAC and GHRP-6, so I’m going to see how they enhance the AAS (sust, Dbol(drop after 4weeks), Deca). So health always first, I’m not trying to get the bad sides, that I haven’t experienced yet and possibly the peps will push that with 2 19-nors.

Thank you to everyone as always

  • Chappy747's picture
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  • Chappy747
  • 1 month ago

that's quite a few drugs that seem to be competeing with each other... I think you could get similar results with less

  • Hoagie22's picture
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  • Hoagie22
  • 1 month ago

I think there are a lot of cycles that work a lot of different ways for people, some cycles work great for some and others not as much. I understand the caution with using 2 19-nor, I also know how I react to tren and also to deca separately before even attempting putting them together. The prolactin issue is not something I have issues with, not saying I could never have them but that’s why we all have AI on hand with no negotiation. Also, have never experienced sex drive shut down on either of them. Again, not saying I couldn’t develop those issues and them be critical.

The proof I guess I’ll say and what I go with is, research as much as possible, gather all benefits and negatives, speak to actual people (like on here) who have run similar cycle and be prepared. That being said, I have run tren and deca together and they do in fact share synergistic effects for me and have had a significant gains with little to no sides.

But I love this site for this reason. I respect and count on everyone’s opinions and real cycle advice.

I did forget the caber so I’m grateful you guys scouted that out and placing order now.

  • stairmaster's picture
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  • stairmaster
  • 1 month ago

There are a lot cycles which would working defo better than this here.

Its too complex for me. A good cycle includes 2-3 steroids they complement each other.

Why complicated when basic cycles can make u more huge than expected? More isn't always better.

  • SL's picture
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Agree 100%

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  • SL
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You look solid bro. But I dont get why people want to run multiple 19's in a cycle especially when tren is one of the compounds. Please elaborate

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  • Soulja
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I don't see any Caber in there. If you already made up your mind about using 2 19-Nors at once you should definitely invest in some. I also agree with Sam, that's a lot of gear. I think you could make significant progress (like 20lbs) with a traditional Test/Deca cycle with the Dbol kickstart. The peps will enhance your AAS as well.

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  • Sam I Am
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That's alot of gear for a 200 lb guy that's 6 ft tall.

  • Gymfoam86's picture
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I started there... 500 mg test and 300 deca w lil dbol got me to 227 in 6 weeks

  • stairmaster's picture
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Thats defo correct Sam!