CANT DECIDE!! this cycle or old one i posted! GRR! -Sust/Winny- ONLY now
So I've been doing a fair amount of thinking, and I've decided since my last cycle of Test/Winny went so well, i might give it another go around.
My expectations are the same as my cycle log i created about two weeks ago. In a nut shell "loose ten pounds of fat, gain ten pounds of lean muscle"... Im still six foot one, and still 192 pounds with just about 14% BF.
Here are the differences between this cycle log and the one i created a few weeks ago (That all you guys gave VERY good advice .... and redicule on 
)
1. Ive changed my Sust from 10 weeks to 12 weeks long, also decided to front load the sust first week. ( WOULD LOVE to hear what people have to say about that).
2. NPP is out...maybe, i like to try to keep things easy. Ive heard a lot in my life "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID" so thats what I'm trying to do here. Except part of me wants to try a new compound so I'm back and fourth on it.
Im not 100% sure of the dosage and how often of Aromasin but ill do what feels right when I'm on cycle
Besides that everything is the same. Im leaning towards doing this cycle, without the NPP, but I'm not 100% sure yet. Oh and ill be doing a ECA stack while on cycle :-)
| Week | Sustanon 400 | Winny 50mg Oral | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1200mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 2 | 600mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 3 | 600mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 4 | 600mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 5 | 600mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 6 | 600mg | 12.5mg ED | |
| 7 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 8 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 9 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 10 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 11 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 12 | 600mg | 50mg | 12.5mg ED |
| 13 | |||
| 14 | |||
| 15 PCT | Clomid 100mg | Nolva 40mg | |
| 16 PCT | Clomid 100mg | Nolva 40mg | |
| 17 PCT | Clomid 50mg | Nolva 20mg | |
| 18 PCT | Clomid 50mg | Nolva 20mg |
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JohnnyBlackwould it make any difference doing 75mg of winny a day for 6 weeks. or 50mg for 8 weeks
Winny for me gave insane pumps at 30mgs/split thru day. Consider im shorter into that....but in the gym it was instant huge pump to where i was forced to take longer breaks between sets. Now 5mins between sets when going super heavy is fine. The other side of Winny for me was the energy boost. I'm borderline hyper and 6hrs sleep is a lot. On Winny i didn't need sleep. Few lil 15min cat naps and gtg. Now most anabolics work great up to a point then more isn't always better. Sometimes the sides are higher. Ex is var at 80....works for many but when same folks upped over 100 it was just more cost. Winny has the downside of drying the joints at same time it dries/cut the muscles. So higher doses left many with dry painful joints. Risk vs benefit. Winny unbinds test....which literally boosts testosterone. If test is bound...it can't be used by the body. Long chemistry story for bound/unbound.
JohnnyBlackfast you know too much about this whole world haha kidding bro but you are always full of good info :-)
Just research and you'll grow well :). Listen to your body too!
8-14for Winny is great. It lets the test unbind and work(serum binding hormone). No need to frontload a long cycle. Frontloading is for short cycles. Sbhg and frontloading all in forums. And keep aromais going til pct. Might not have to use it right away but tet will be built up at last week of shots.
JohnnyBlackfast why are you always full of good info? your like a steroid encyclopedia
Just so you know I'm just guessing.
The more experienced lads will soon reply, it's just winny will have a short half-life so it will be ok to run it up to PCT I would have thought.
I think people are gonna say to move the winny forward 2 weeks 9 - 14, Good luck either way.
JohnnyBlackuh oh... now I've heard all three " start at beginning when you start your test" and "Winny needs to end with the test for best results" and now this.... The guys who told me end it with the test really seemed to know what they were talking about so i think i gotta stick to my guns about that.
On the Forum under Steroid Cycles,
There is a sticky saying 'How to run a cycle'
On the suggested cycles on there Winny runs until PCT bro.
keep running winny untill day before pct as there will still be test in your system for the 2 weeks youre not injecting before pct
JohnnyBlack"As far as the winny, oral or inj.?...anyway, what I would do is run it the LAST 4-6 weeks...why stop at week 9 when you are still carrying the test to week 10? The benefits of winny at the tail end of your cycle are phenomenal in respect to the SHBG/'freeing-up test' benefits before pct." What some one very knowledgeable had to say about when to run winny on my last cycle. But it seems everyone has a different opinion