1st cycle. Help appreciated.
26 y/o
5-11
205lbs
15BF
Body building almost 3 years now.
Diet in check- 6-7 meals per day.
High protein about 45g, per meal.
Carb-30-40g per meal
1 gallon + water daily
Multivitamin
7g creatine a day
10g aminos a day
Multivitamin pack
Workout 5x weekly
Strength training 6-8 reps usually.
Incredibly dedicated. Usually won't miss a meal. Hardly ever cheat meal.
This will be my first cycle.
Starting with test cyp
250mg -2x week. =500 total
10 weeks
Confused about aromasin I see a lot of different things. Plan to start it at week 4 how much?!?!And how often!!?!?
have had depression in the past a lot more stable now and from what I've read addex has a worse "Come down"
So armosin seems a better fit.
11-12 off armosin?
Not so much worried about the depression that may come with the cycle more interested in not getting gyno or shrunken nuts.
13 clomid 100/40 nolva
14 same
15 50/20
16 50/20
My main question is the aromas in how much and how often.
I realize my BF a little high. Generally I pack on weight fast and loose it fast as well.
2 months ago was at 220 now 205.
I know it's suggested a lower BF.
Anything else anyone else noticed or suggests I'm open. Would rather have the truth, don't care how you tell. Advice welcome here.
| Week | test cypionate | Clomid | Nolvadex and aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||
| 2 | 500mg | ||
| 3 | 500mg | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 6.25 aromasin eod continued throughout | |
| 5 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 6 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 7 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 8 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 9 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 10 | 500mg | 250iu 2x | |
| 11off | Aromasin | 250iu 2x | |
| 12off | Aromasin cont. | 250 iu 1x | |
| 13pct | Clomid/Nolva 100/40 | ||
| 14 | 100/40 | ||
| 15 | 50/20 | ||
| 16 | 50/20 |
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Dont forget that hcg can increase estrogen. If you have to use it, i would either do one 250 iu per week, or in divided doses. Of course, you wont see this until the hcg is started.
Aromasin 6.25mg ed is a good dose and frequency for a standard test only cycle, unless you have a high aromatization rate. The hcg may add some estro you were not expecting, so BOLO for estro sides in addition to the Test. If that happens, you will have to titrate the Aro dose some...like on Wednesdays do 12.5mg, then go back to 6.25mg all the other days. Bloods week 5-6 for real time data.
Are you saying 250iu total per week or 250iu 2x a week.
I am saying 250iu total...hcg is optional on test only cycles and you really dont need the extra estro that hcg will bring on, especially at 15% bf and being your first cycle...imho
Looks you work hard and search hard too . This is good . Why test e for 11 weeks . 10 or 12 good . Aromasin you can start it depending on your blood test . And good that you choose aro as an anti estrogen . When start with aro 6.25 eod . Then adjust it as you want and you can take it through out the pct too . The pct looks good . And hcg through out the cycle help you to recover faster you still 26 years old stay safe . You would love have kids in future . And 15% bf not bad to start a cycle . If your test legit and your diet on check then you will cut some fat and add nice muscles for first cycle . Enjoy
Richard.SimmonsGood advice !! If I could +3 yea again I would !!
I have added HCG 250iu 2x weekly. Reading it says only should run at most 3-4 weeks at a time. Since this will be a short cycle and its uses reading looks like effective at the end of my cycle. Although I see some posts with guys running it at week 5 With a total of 6 weeks. Which would be more effective. Running it at week 5or week 7? As well are my dosages correct? 250 iu= 2x a week total 500iu a week?
Richard.SimmonsA good starting point when running Aro is .6 to me. This is due you can always bump the Aro up. Aro always cleans me up really well. Good choice
Run week 5 till 2 or 3 days before the pct . The rest ok
I normally use 12.5mg Aromasin per day up to pct but thats me.
Normally just split 25s, and really to know for sure is blood labs, see where you pre, 6 weeks in and adjust based on needs if needed, refer to the bloodwork bible forum here, good info there.
IMO 15BF isn't "too high" but I wouldn't go higher, i like to stay around 10-12%, just looks good for me, but different for everyone,