1° real cycle
I'm 48, 84x1,79 (185 lb x 5,87 ft) 18% I think to start in april or may so I have time to improve my percentage :-) I train for more than 10 years, I ve recently tried the deca and sust for a short time just to see how the body reacts, but this should be the first real cycle. I chose sustanon as a mix of various testosterone (both fast and slow) and the deca for its anabolic value but also to relieve joint pain I have now solved with glucosamine/chondroitin but providing the cycle would increase the iron lifted overcome the various pains. I chose a low values because I want to get not more than 3 or 4 kg and try to lower the percentage of fat. Can i put them in the same syringe?
Do you think an Al is necessary? If i can't find the Aromasin what do you recommend as a replacement? At the end of the cycle and pct I would like to do also a small cycle of clenbuterol for a further weight loss, what do you think? Is it better the two weeks on and 2 off? Or any suggestion? What do you think about this little cycle? I mean is it works or I have to run the classic 12 weeks on 500 of testosterone? Maybe my questions seem stupid but I recently approached this world, if isn't a good one can i know why just to understand the right things to do. Thanks in advance , ciao
| Week | Test. E (2 pin) | Aromasin or arimidex | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | |||
| 2 | 500mg | |||
| 3 | 500mg | |||
| 4 | 500mg | 6,25 mg/.25mg/eod | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 6 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 10 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 11 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 12 | 500mg | 6,25 mg | ||
| 13 | 6,25 mg | |||
| 14 | 6,25 mg | |||
| 15 | 6,25 mg | 40mg | 100mg | |
| 16 | 6,25 mg | 40mg | 100mg | |
| 17 | 6,25 mg | 20mg | 50mg | |
| 18 | 6.25 mg | 20 mg | 50 mg |
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OK ! Get the message, thanks. I have completely changed the cycle, from your experience this is the way...
Just a couple of questions about Al, i read someone prefer uses it only in case..., others use always, and again 6,5 or 12 Ed ? Aromasin in your opinion is better than others? There are so many opinion about it. Thanks again ....
People prefer aromasin (exemestane) because it's a suicide inhibitor, for us, that means that we don't have to worry about an estrogen rebound. Regarding the dosage, it'll have to be up to you as you begun to use it. Personally, I start with 6.25 ed, if sides continue then up to 12.5. It's best taken before you go to sleep. If you're running test e/c (long esters) you will not need to start taking it until 3-4 weeks as it will take time for the test to build up in your system. I think for more stable blood levels, it's probably best to take it through the duration of your cycle and pct. Make sure you get bloods 6 weeks into this cycle to see where your estradiol levels are and that will help you determine if you are dosing your ai too much or too little. Hopefully that answers all your questions.
Complete and very helpful answer thanks a lot man !
I change again the cycle plan, hope now it's quite good !
Just one more question, if i don't find aromasin witch one do you suggest? Thanks again.... Ciao
Your two choices for an AI are Aromasin (exemestane) or Arimidex. Aro is fairly easy to find.
Same dosage ? Thks !!!!
breakingfaceSounds like you have a pile of research to do before executing a cycle. Hang around the forum and join a steroid based forum to expand your knowledge. A cycle is only a small part of the picture if your goal is to gain a lot of mass.
zewiread below.. this is not a good idea. its crap to be honest. Your BF% is to high for Deca which could lead to gyno .. IMO drop the deca and change that sust if that's what you choose to 500mg a week. 250 monday 250 thursday.
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25mg of aro = 1mg of adex. Adex is usually used e3d or eod. Similar to your aro dosing you could start out at. 25mg and bump up til you find your sweet spot.
This is just flat out BAD for a first cycle. Please go research some more. Broctavious hit some of the important reasons why. For someone that does not understand yet how the body will react sides wise you chose compounds that can really bring up some complicated ones. Right after you finish pct before the body truely has a chance to recover you want to go straight into another compound...this is a horrible idea, dont do it. Glad you put this up. There are alot of people here willing to help. Keep it safe. Have you had bloods done to see where your baseline levels stand? If not, that should be your first step.
If it's your first cycle everyone will recommend a classic 10-12 week of Test at 500mg a week. You'll see plenty of results from that. You are correct that deca is good for joints, but at your bodyfat it will fill you with 15lbs of water in 3 weeks. Besides deca shuts you down hard. Too hard for a first cycle. You need caber and Aromasin or Arimidex if you are going to run deca. Caber to prevent prolactin build up so you don't start lactating from Deca.
I always like having an AI like Arimidex or Aromasin for a cycle to help with nip sensitivity. Plenty of Peptide sources on here have good Exemestane (Aromasin).
Run Test-E at 500 for 10-12 weeks PCT starts 14 days later just like you have. If you run a different type of testosterone like sustanon it would be 3-4 weeks until you start PCT. I'd avoid deca for a few cycles. You'll be more than happy with Test only for a first cycle. No need to rush.