+ 12 NAPS GP test cyp 250 disappointed again !!!
Here we go again !! Ive been running NAPS GP test cyp 250 for 5 weeks prior to bloods. batch # gp743f. These were replacements for an underdosed batch that naps asked me not to post the blood results for. I have been pinning 125 mg 2X/w Bloods were drawn on saturday at 11:30 ish am. Last pin was wednesday at 7pm..
Naps had sent me lab tests on the raws on their new batches (not done byangus) I am very disappointed with these results. My levels on watson cyp at 80 mg /w were471. ON THE GP AT 3X the dose i only hit 600s ??? I have had a few negative experiences with NAPS that have been solved. I dont think I can recover from this one. If you ee something that im missing please let me know..
I will adjust my dosage to hpefully hit the high normal mark. hoping to get between 900 -1100. I have 70 ml of this stuff left, I guess ill make the best of it
I probably didnt need it but i was taking liquis anastrozole by bluesky peptides at .25 2x/w
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Romangod, You mentioned that you had shoulder surgery. When you got these labs done were you taking pain relievers? Specifically opiates. (oxycodone,hydrocodone,codeine,etc.......) These will affect test levels negatively, sometimes dramatically.
Unfortunately not.. They gave me enough pain killers for 1 week. All the doctors I have are afraid of scripting pain meds due to the publicity and epidemic.. Thanks for the input..
Its a bit low, but 3 days after a 125mg shot is not too bad. I
I adjusted m dosage t raise my levels with that batch. Im back on my TRT dose of watson fot the last 3 weeks... I have to see the doc soon !!!
Even though your serum rage was lower then expected your free testosterone range could be through the roof and that's the number that matters from what I was told . I learned this by going through the same thing using Geneza test prop. My serum levels were in normal range not high , but found out my free testosterone was off the charts.
Understood... My free test was in the high range.. It was also high on my TRT dose of watson. This batch of GP test cyp is DEFINITELY underdosed. If you have it, get rid of it... DO NOT use for a cycle. you will be wasting your time IMO
I have a large order of Naps Test E on the way. Will do bloodwork 4 weeks in and post.
The new batches are testing well. from what ive read.... good luck bro.
yeah i think its because he has started testing all his raws now
He was forthcoming in saying one of his raw powder sources went bad. Stuff went into production with those bad raws and it will keep surfacing now and again. Who exactly has the bad bottles and where are they now? Worldwide? Quite the problem. Yes, now they test all the raws.
sucks for the guys that have the bad batches but it is good that he is replacing them and testing his raws instead of denying or disappearing which we have seen many sources do
These were supposed t be from the new batch...
Anon+1 for tests
We all get took it happens, just happened to me as well after almost 3 years no issues with the same source
+1 did you run the second batch of Testoviron's yet?
No i didnt.. Naps sent me 30 amps as a replacement. I tore my rotator cuff . Ha d surgery on march 17. Ill be reovering for MONTHS. It sucks !! Ill save them for my comeback if all the bloods come back good.... I expect that the recipients of the free amps will be posting soon. the timeline is right
How'd your recovery go, Roman?
Recovery went well. Im lifting heavy again... I still have issues with pain and some clicking and popping.. LOL. It comes with age.. i guess..Im unable to do certain exercises but satisfied. Thanks for checking up.. Its just over a year since surgery...
I've always been impressed with Naps but maybe I've been lucky. +1
Very respectably source...
Ive used them quite a few times. They must not like me. LOL I still like the one stop shopping. Im not saying that I wont use them again. I have quite a stockpile... I would like to try a solid domestic source however.. Made in the USA thanks
I love domestic, but most guys vanish very quickly for obvious reasons. Before naps, I always use one domestic source. His stuff was fire & I still have some, it's what I'm running now. But, just like the rest he just disappeared one day.
Big brother is watching. Its easy to find the locals.. They already control the opium coming from afghanistan. The worlds largest producer.... Whats next ?
Dam that sucks Bro! I have some of their Cyp lol.
I'll most certainly be using them again also. Their GP like has saved me more than a few times. Was on another sources' Adex and I was having *problems * so I jumped on some of naps AI he sent out to me and within a couple of days I had no worries. Chinese raw sources are apparently quiet inconsistent.
Ok so if the purity is only 72%, then once you account for Esther weight then your really at 50% of what's on the label as far as pure testosterone is concerned...
Enanthate Esther is 30%
Purity is 72%
So to keep things simple, let's say your shooting a gram per week...
(1000 X .7) (. 72) = 700 X .72 = 504mg/wk pure test
So basically you have to remember to shoot double the dose that your trying to achieve if your using this gear...
I bumped it up a bit.... Looking to hit high normal... Im feeling pretty good at 700.. but I feel better at 1100 Free test wasnt bad ...
That's why I'm going back to Pharma test from now on you shoot less oil for the same results
If you have the money and you can get legit pharma, of course that would be the way to go... But that "pharma" is faked just as much as gh... :/
I agree that's why i'd rather run half the dose of gh but go with pharma it works out the same £, the pharma test isn't really that costly if you take into consideration you have to buy 2x as much ugl most of the time, I love 24 I've had his bayers test e and rotexmedica and there both gtg nice price to. There was also a guy that used his Karachi sus at 250mg and his levels were over 2500! That's what he says he's taking anyway lol
Ive gotten fake tesoviron the last time I blasted. My whole cycle was screwed..
That's messed up bro
You never know ... This is the game we play !! You have a better chance of getting dope on the street.
Fr you
unfortunately almost everything is faked no a days. Thats why we got eroids with bloods and mass specs to guide us
Exactly how I feel... Bloods dont lie.. I post them on everything I pin..
The only problem with getting BW it only checks for test. Who knows about the rest. . . .No way to know how underdosed the more expensive stuff is like tren or mast.
Good point !! I guess mass spec is the way to go..
Just no other way. People always say get BW to check for legitimacy and potency. But, I always though that - If I was making under dosed stuff, I'd go for the expensive stuff that no one can test. Why even underdose test? It's dirt cheap compared to tren and the like.
I wish more people thought like us. I mean we are putting drugs in out body. Not only do we want to make sure its legit. We also want to know if it causkng any bad or unwanted reactions.
Its the cost, im sure.... My bloodwork costs more than my gear.. However, My health is worth more than a couple of bucks. I definitely dont want bigger man boobs. LOL
yeah I feel you. The lab corp test I get include everything. It almost equals the cost of my gear unless im running a shit ton of var lol
Exactly.... I follow the mass specs... If a source doesn't have any or if the ones they have are sub-par, I don't order period.... ;)
yup
This is all Test Cyp and Test E Geneza has imported this year from different manufacturers. All the tests have been done by Angus. This is the mass spec test.
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Cypionate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Cypionate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Cypionate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Enanthate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Enanthate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Enanthate_NapsT...
http://www.napsgear.org/images/tests/Beaker_Testosterone_Enanthate_NapsT...
damn thats fucked, im pinning 150 a week, once a week and my test usually is roughly that much or more the day before my next shot. +1 for bloods
angusThose were column tests. I always hate when sources try to pass off the column test as a broad spectrum test. Not only is it inaccurate depiction of the raw but it seems a bit immoral to me too.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/mass-spec-explainedslei...
It is true that we did a lot of testing for Naps, perhaps you should ask him for the copy of MY report? Just a thought, IDK. I love that you guys trust my work and I'll never do anything to jeopardize that. +2
Can you give us your opinion on the links that Naps posted above?
Are these column tests or broad spectrum?
im pretty sure those are the mass specs done by beaker and angus
It seemed like it, but I wanted to be sure due to angus's comment.
i believe angus was referring to column test naps did before he sent stuff into angus.