Oh and what I meant by reputable surgeons removing the entire (or nearly the entire as you pointed out) gland was this. I talked quite a bit to my surgeon, we discussed some of the different techniques for removal problems with some benefits of others etc. Nice guy didn't mind actually talking to his patients. There's a lot of people operating, especially in my state more so than anywhere else in the USA, that are not even board certified. Somehow that is actually legal. A large percentage of his clients are men who had the surgery elsewhere and it was done incorrectly, from what he told me a lot of these quacks are basically just doing lipo and sending them home or not removing the entire gland causing all kinds of different uneven fucked up looks. Saw a lot of the before/afters from people he fixed some were pretty bad.

I get that you've assumed I'm an idiot that's cool but I didn't chose my surgeon lightly lol when I'm a little further healed I'll post pictures. He did a fantastic job quacks don't do work this well. You are also correct about 60+ surgeries being relatively low the information I had read was extremely outdated, the number is significantly higher since in recent years this has become his single most performed procedure.

Whoa whoa back up. Clearly your knowledge far exceeds mine on this topic don't get angry over my trivial errors, feel free to correct I encourage that but you seem to have taken offense.... as if I've made this claim positioning myself as some sort of expert lol. If that's how it read to you then my bad not my intention.

What you said about cratering makes perfect sense, some of what I perceived to be solely scar tissue underneath the nipple does feel different than the tissue at the incision site. I'm used to what the damn glandular tissue feels like unfortunately and it does feel like gland directly underneath. For my bad side this would constitute removing probably 95% of the gland if what I feel is indeed gland. I'm sure my surgeon was clueless to exactly why I asked if the ENTIRE gland was removed and if it could ever come back.

Now as for gyno "not coming back" I did word that poorly. To me, a guy that had a straight up small breast on his chest at one point, a small amount of puffiness unnoticeable to all but the trained eye doesn't constitute gyno for example in my book not being technical. Mild symptoms associated with AAS use in general I'm talking the stuff an AI easily sorts out. Prior to the surgery my gyno was always just kept the same with a proper AI and caber. Although it never got worse (or if it did I easily returned it to what was "normal" for me) it didn't get better either of course. I didn't mean it as a technical statement and come to think of it should have elaborated. Someone without basic cycling knowledge could possibly read that and think after surgery they can do whatever and not run the risk of having any further issues.

Really all I meant to do was share my positive experience, not get into an argument about specifics though...

Yeah I don't disagree with Muta's protocol not at all, read it before, but I have ran a similar one. It worked, but came back over time. Before that I tried a fucked up one with letro and it just came back immediately after. He is the head of a plastic surgery center in a major city, he has a few people under him that also perform the surgery but I made it clear I only want him doing it. He doesn't specifically advertise any specialty, but there are huge numbers of pictures for boob/gyno not nearly as many for the rhinoplasty I'd say that seems to be mostly what they do. I still have to meet with him so I'll decide for sure then next week. When I say 60+ I mean he has over 60 before/after pictures for male breast reduction on his site, I'm sure he's done plenty more been practicing for 23 years but I'll find out. From what I understand being certified by the american society for aesthetic plastic surgery is a higher certification many plastic surgeons don't have, if you look for surgeons certified by both that board and the board of plastic surgery you don't find many - in my area at least and it is a major city. Thanks for the concern bro, I THINK I'm in good hands as best as I can tell. Nothing set in stone yet til next week though when I meet him. This is taken from his site with some details omitted.

"Recently voted Best Plastic Surgeon by ________ Magazine readers for the second consecutive year, _________, M.D. is certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and is a member of The American Society of Plastic Surgeons and The American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. He is a fellow of the American College of Surgeons.

Contributing editor and lecturer, ___________, M.D. holds his B.S. and M.D. from _________ State University. He gained his experience in surgery and Otolaryngology at ______ Medical Center and the University of __________. He later trained in Plastic Surgery at the University of ________.

Dr. _______ has practiced in Central ______ since 1988."

If a doc with credentials & experience like that fucks my shit up I'll be pissed.