+ 9 Trenadex Enanthate by Sciroxx Official Independent lab test REBUTTAL
Science and emotion are poor bed buddies. The data should stand on its own and the science will support it. That being said, I actually read what was posted on the thread about the tren-e. I had the sample and re-ran it on my dime. I then submitted my data to the Dr. for his analysis and also gave him the information from the independent lab to compare to. Enclosed is a copy of his analysis and findings.
I am open to the fact that humans make mistakes and NOTHING is 100% except death.
With that, a detailed and very thorough lab was done. These are the findings.
Believe what you want, from whom you want. I have been here supplying these reports for over a year. I have a body of work that speaks for itself. Mistakes have been made and addressed. I am human. Thank you for your time and attention.
Beaker and Angus
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AnonSo I take it the chicken enchiladas are bad? Ok what about the menudo?
Angus, this in reference to the sample I sent in correct?
If it's the reference to your sample then the CLEAR numbers on the graph are DIFFERENT then previous testing - makes sense ?! I guess it makes sense exactly as the fact that out of the blue in a couple of hours Angus/Beaker team found an authorized lab, managed to give them the sample, and then they immediately tested it and analyzed and released a thorough analysis ......
Anyhow pls refer to the comment on the thread for the authorized lab test - the method of evaluation, and the present of the "impure ions" are invalid
AnonDude, The Mods just stated below that you need to let this shit go.. Why do you constantly have to have the last word trying to disprove someone? its just making you look bad at this point..
Interesting that u need to keep the last word for yourself here, and I do wonder why again I find you with your dogs on a thread that has nothing to do with u and you have no knowledge about ?
I find my comment as relevant to this member I replied to, and my remarks do shade light on this subject - I'm sorry if I broke any rule or instruction - I wasn't aware
Woof woof.lol
angusYessir.
Thanks for the updated info. I think since some of the testing (tablets) showed good results and some (primo) not so good. In my opinion, the Primo should of been the compound retested by the lab in Israel. Both of these test agree that there is Tren E (minus the purity/impurities conflict). The Primo, well, thats another subject.
I agree with u.
I sent u FR back then - authorize me pls
And I still haven't got acceptance to my FR request ........ I wonder if anyo5ne wants to get to the root of this
I have not accepted. I'm over trying to get to the 'root' of it. I made an order. It didnt work out for me personally. I've tested many compounds that I'm running or plan on running. I've done this on my own at my own expense. Some tested great, good, and not so good. Karlx, you have a few of your compounds that tested great, good, and not so good. No different than some other sources here. You are only as good as YOUR source. EVERYONE here realizes that things happen in this type of business. It's up to YOU, the source, to determine how the situation is handled. May I suggest doing more MS Testing using your lab in Israel, or maybe even the ms testing that's being done here. As a member, I appreciate these types of test as I'm sure others do aswell. All the best.
Unless you guys can prove this so called doctor is in fact a real doctor this means nothing. I suggest you guys stop this childish battle with each other, unless either party can prove there claims.
For obvious reasons the information is not available. I am in 110% agreement with Angus... this is the end of the line. If anything more is done, it will not be Angus or I. I tried to be quiet and "let it pass' but it lingered on like a fart in church.
It's all I ask my man.
angusIt is already done. Neither Beaker nor I will engage Karl.
Good man.
Dear Angus and Beaker - you were speechless on my thread and couldn't even address the valid claims which refutes your method and findings. Beaker is a known analytical chemist so I would like to hear his remarks instead of representing some findings here which are inconsistent even with your former test - check the numbers on the graph here and there - how you explain it ?
wow... and i have 4 bottles of this fucking trash
I suggest you to test them - you got them from me - use a real lab and as long as you're honest I welcome the results.
Check my thread on a lab test to similar batch to the tested one an realize the quality
well, i won't get in the middle of this dispute between you and angus/beaker. i'm gonna run the gear and we'll see how it compares. sending it off for a sample isn't economically feasible for me at the moment.
Bro I have 6 bottles where can I send some to get a test done I will send I don't care how much it costs???
PM bro...
You got it from me- this I know - test it, trial it - I trust your judgment - contact me and we'll match it a proper test product
As a honest remark - so super Angus - you are aware to my REAL lab post for like less then 16 hours, and you already found by mistake an authorized doctor who ran the sample happily and immediately and analyzed it ?
the FDA doesn't work that fast - at least make a reasonable story
Rustyhookerseeing an official FDA lab in....Israel?.....was a news flash as well.
Regardless, anyone in a business would simply take the given info and raise the standards rather than fight/debate the planet. GMP standards are supposed to be set high. Aren't you GMP certified? So raise the bar.
I supplied you guys with an official lab analysis - very careful and precise analysis from an expert in this field, including specified explanations to refute the basis of this "doctor who?" analysis here, I don't know where the bar should be raised from here ?
Lab analysis which was posted yesterday confirmed dosage and purity which withstand with USP standards (sterility was not tested in this one)
Well here are facts - will try to do it clearly and in a nutshell
used wrong method of evaluation from first place
the ions which pretend to be present there can't be shown at this temperature of analysis
I would like a clear explanation to the calculation - pls examine the evaluation of the peak - it's completely different from the first analysis and baseless anyhow ! at least show some consistency with the findings
the pretend to be doctor ? who is he ? what lab he represent ? by which authority ?
hater gonna hate....
and facts according to garp?
angusgarp garp
LMAO!
So its not his tren e that is 26% pure... Its the overall percentage of sample.
I am just trying to understand.
Yes, this IS the Tren-E sample.. the 1st slide is an example of the single column.
Ok... Please break it down for me like I am a 5 year old...
I understand its the tren e sample...
If there wasn't other crap in the sample the tren e percentage would be much higher?
angusthe amount of Tren E that is present in the sample will not change, but the comparison of tren to other "crap" is a ratio that is expressed as a percentage, and in this case 26. So if there were less impurities then the ratio would change in favor of the tren, and the percentage would increase. In essence and in the most simplest terms, yes if there wasn't other things in the vial the percentage would be much higher.
Angus - you claim every where that you have no clue in analytical chemistry - so why and where from you brought this claim ?
Pls explain to me based on what you calculated it ? show me pls ?
Also explain what are the impurities and how they were released with the trenbolone while carrying much higher molecular weight
Thank you angus...
10 thumbs up for Angus and Beaker for all they do for the Eroids community... End of story all...
Thank you for this angus!very interesting number compared to the others posted....
Steveb+1
thanks angus. good of you to retest out of pocket.
although ill guarantee a certain someone will try and say you wrote it yourself
good luck bro and thanks again
angusYou nailed it! look up^^^^^
+1 for taking the heat
AnonBrother dont even sweat this dude. Stay above it bro we all see what's really going on. If people want to buy his shit who cares. Ur rep here is golden. He's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
Family/Health/Integrity. .
Fuck Karl. Fuck these Mass Spec labs. Fuck it bro. Is ur family supported? Are u and family healthy? Can u look yourself in the mirror and not look away? That's all that matters bro. Don't lose sleep over this shit.
RustyhookerGlad these independent tests are getting published. Save the lil guys....one at a time.
Very honorable of you to repeat the tests for free. Time to read!