+ 28 Blood Pressure Help
Every once in a while We see a blood pressure question and the truth is, its probably the biggest health hazard when it comes to doing what we do. Most of the young guys running gear, I was one once upon a time, just look at roid rage as kinda cool often and dont really realize it is likely the result of high blood pressure. High blood pressure could be responsible for a large percentage of all disease related to cardiovascular or organ issues. We should talk about it more and in my opinion there should be no single person running gear without a BP monitor. I figured it out many years after running my first gear, I thought rage just meant I was a badass! Lol. So anyway my answer is cardio early and often, eat as clean as possible and take my omega3 fish oil along with a few other heart supps....hopefully everyone can drop in their control methods and thoughts. I happen to believe even blood pressure medication is a good thing if you need it when compared to just letting it get out of hand. It is depreciating you which is the opposite of what we are all trying to do to begin with. A motor that runs nice and smooth that granny drives will last longer than one in Goths ride given he just boils the tires at every intersection and thinks he's so fuckin cool with his dollar store jewelry and his felt hat and gold tip cane! TELL US WHATS WORKING FOR YOU....
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L-theanine is probably the most beneficial ingredient of the three because it is actually used for hypertension, stress and anxiety. The nattokinase works on blood circulation, kinda like l-arginine does in all of these n.o. boosters.
Quick note guys....If you are new to Gear a higher elevated blood pressure is to be expected. Unless your some fat dude on gear then who the hell knows? You have it all figured out. Steroids and Nutri System combo....Your on your way!
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but sodium is another big one. Watch your sodium intake. The daily reccomended value is I believe 3000-3500 mg/day but cutting that in half would help reduce a BP as well. Maybe even limit yourself to around 2 grams of salt/day. Osmosis is basically what happens with high salt intake. Where salt or sodium goes water WILL go. Ever eaten a crap load of sunflower seeds and just felt fat and weighed about 2-3 extra lbs? Thats why. Where salt goes water goes and when there is more water weight on your body; just like when your holding water weight from T or dbol and the list can go on, it makes it harder for your blood to circulate easily through out your body and reach all the right places. Then your heart also has to work harder. All while this is going on you may not even feel it or have any effects. That is why high BP is called "the silent killer'. Imagine a garden hose. When you leave the hose alone the water flows naturally. When you need the water to travel further (comparing to the circulatory system here) you need to restrict or clamp down on the hose hence vasoconstriction and/or high BP. Sometimes you can do everything in your power to lower your BP and may even be doing everything right. In this case it is most likely hereditary and you may have to get on a beta blocker or some type of diuretic. Hope this made sense. Im kind of all over the place. Damn redbull.
Anonbump for some of the newbs..
AnonThanks hrdbdygrrrrrrl.....
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.
PermalinkOE2000Ok, I've had my way with this 3lb bologna..... who's up for sandwiches?????
I also forgot to mention resvertrol, green tea extract fish oils like T already mentioned and my secret weapon....lisinopril, just started it after years of high bp. After I started epo and gear my bp sky rocketed so I had to get on an ace-inhibitor.
tread-mI dont think anyone has mentioned sex which is surprising considering what we all do. Thing is I know it helps but if it helped very much mine would be about 60/34...just based on "raw" numbers of course.
OE2000Does sex with yourself count? I've had way too much alone time here lately......
AnonJust make sure you switch hands....
OE2000Oh definitely...... 2 hands, KY.... and this 3lb bologna, its a party up in here!!!!!!
awe damn not again, well i guess with the bologna grrrls finger aint nothing. party on my brotha party on. lol crazy ass
TMI
I don't ever want to know what you're doing with KY jelly and a 3lb bologna...
tread-mLet me get you the link, or just google "oscar did whaaaaaaaaaaaat"
tread-mYeah, what did you think I was talking about?
Anonto many people get TOO excited... and that my friend raises your blood pressure..
tread-mThat got me excited, I'm just sayin....
sgtstedankoSorry grrl... That never happened before:( Honest
Anonliar liar pants on fire...
I'm surprised no one had mentioned it here but Hawthorne berry works very well for me and its cheap as hell. I'm a 130/90 guy on gear and it brings it down 8 points or so at about 1000gm (two pills) a day. Just my tc.
OE2000Hey Tread, you got me interested in this topic and I can't stop researching. Potassium (2000-4000mg per day) rich foods: sweet potatoes, kidney beans.... you can find great food sources here----> http://www.weightlossforall.com/potassium-rich-food.htm
or here ----> http://nutritiondata.self.com/
tread-mNice brother, yup I get tons of it or I cramp bad. In fact yesterday my arms were trying to close by themselves in a cramp fashion after hitting bi's so hard earlier. The worst are legs , if my legs try to close like if I'm setting in a chair I have to stop them quickm. One day I swear 911 came to mind as they both tried to lock in a desk style chair when I had my feet kinda under it. Anyway one went full cramp and got closed before I could stop it an d thats the worst pain you will ever feel. Its like a foot cramp X 10 ! My lats were knotted to be hell and pulling into cramps as well but a deep tissue massage pulling the knots out helped there. While on topic, if you ever find yourself trying to cramp during a workout, big muscles like hams or lats usually, a swig of pickle juice will shut the cramps off pretty quick..or works for me.
I know this one sounds funny but I have heard about transcendental meditation having a profound impact. Match that up with cardio and a lower sodium diet and you can see drops in the range of 15-20 points. Throw in progressive muscle relaxation and you can get another 5 and 3 systolic diastolic respective point drop. These are reasons why countries that meditate frequently stroke and heart attack are lower in the cause of death ladder.
I am no yogi and do not practice TM' but I have mild BP issues... if I sit down w/ my BP monitor and relax ( close my eyes and breathe ) for a few minutes I can drop my BP by 10 points or more. There is truth in that for sure...
but I still do my cardio !
AnonIt isn t funny and meditation and yoga are superior to taking medications ...taking meds opens you to so many other complicatns.. look at the warning labels sometime and tell me if you really want to put that stuff in you after you ve worked so hard to get in shape....
you are smarter than I look' :?
I have seen alot of posts about diet and cardio playing a major role in lowering your blood pressure due to juice. If you are not genetically predisposed to HBP and you are certain it's the gear, a good suggestion is to donate blood every 4-6 weeks. When I used to go to the clinic and get a shot a week, (total fucking ripoff BTW), I would give blood every 6 weeks. When you are on test your blood thickens and can cause a strain on the heart. This possibly leads to HBP and worse conditions. Just my 2C
Anonflip is correct, donating blood does lower the viscosity of the blood by removing red blood cells.
correct again - I just discussed this w/ my doc... ( thick blood here )
I think I also read this recently I bought a few books on eating/diet/health. I think it was the Dr Oz book...
Any possible issues with donating blood with all the abnormal hormone levels/chemicals we have in our system during a cycle?
tread-mGood to know, I always knew about blood doping for oxygen bursts but didn't realize the pull helped bp. Makes perfect sense though.
tread-mThats why we do this...I'm going to check this out, have never heard of it but it does make sense. I do take baby aspirin to keep blood thinner so I guess I'll lay that out with your tip for the guys over 40. (Silverbacks)
sgtstedankoVitamin E helps blood thin as well, I think. But I've got so much nyQuil coursing through my veins right now; you might want to research:)
B vitamins and iron help produce the red blood cells while Vitamin E, and D help prolong their life. Oh and folic acid too. I started supplementing these a few months back and its also very neccesary when your running an epo cycle or just doing any type of endurance sport. Baby aspirin 2x day. Anytime your crit gets too high your suppost to donate blood to lower BP and thin it out. High BP, and thick blood are both common sides of epo as well. Thought Id throw that out since were talking hemotology. My BP has always been on the high side no matter what I do. Its hereditary for me. I have to watch my sodium no more than 3500 a day and that can get tricky sometimes. Someone was telling me beet root juice helped and it did seem to lower my bp the few wks I was drinking it.
OE2000Another great tip.... donated this morning!
OE2000I added Coenzyme Q10, 100mg daily, about 3 months ago and have seen a lowered BP. Cardio at least 4 times per week, plus a weekly hiking trip. Sodium intake is about 750-1000mg a day, thats hard as hell, NO fast food, chips and dip, margaritas with the salty rim.... But yeah, CoQ10, EFAs and avocados... works for me!
tread-mNice tips..I add the coQ10 as well and avacado for sure. Now the sodium intake may be a problem! Lol. Thats a great tip though a nd one we should all work harder on, especially me!
sgtstedankoFor me; Cardio, flax seed oil, plant sterols"Nature made Cholest-off", and Red yeast rice...
Red yeast rice makes wonders dealing with high cholesterol, but is known for raising liver enzimes, so better not taking along with 17aa orals.
Eric090585cardio 3x a week for me
Eric090585and a daily dose of mary jane keeps it alllll good ;)
I'm getting a BP monitor! Thanks for the post.
Same here. Outstanding idea.
SIMPLY AND CHEAP= GOOD CARDIO IS GOING TO HELP YOU A LOT!::}}
AAS-KINGpropanolol bp beta blockers are a great way to control bp and itholds very little sides indeed ..
Eric090585propraninol? really? the anti-anxiety medication?
AAS-KINGits used for alot more than anixty buddy ..bp/migrains/papatations/ect
it had many many uses ..
Felt hat??lol
Just call Huggy Bear.
My Bp is up, and started cardio last week.
Keeping a cool head is vital. This is good info, and I'm taking notes. But just like the recent blood test blog here, it seems most of these guys are deaf and blind to anything but shortcuts.
tread-mI here you, I really had no idea for years ...just thought the feeling of tense and hype was part of gear or juice as it was called in those days. Wish I had this and even so...might have just looked for the short cuts and not given it a second thought! Yeah brother huggy its all good, you make that shit look good playa!
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