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Every once in a while We see a blood pressure question and the truth is, its probably the biggest health hazard when it comes to doing what we do. Most of the young guys running gear, I was one once upon a time, just look at roid rage as kinda cool often and dont really realize it is likely the result of high blood pressure. High blood pressure could be responsible for a large percentage of all disease related to cardiovascular or organ issues. We should talk about it more and in my opinion there should be no single person running gear without a BP monitor. I figured it out many years after running my first gear, I thought rage just meant I was a badass! Lol. So anyway my answer is cardio early and often, eat as clean as possible and take my omega3 fish oil along with a few other heart supps....hopefully everyone can drop in their control methods and thoughts. I happen to believe even blood pressure medication is a good thing if you need it when compared to just letting it get out of hand. It is depreciating you which is the opposite of what we are all trying to do to begin with. A motor that runs nice and smooth that granny drives will last longer than one in Goths ride given he just boils the tires at every intersection and thinks he's so fuckin cool with his dollar store jewelry and his felt hat and gold tip cane! TELL US WHATS WORKING FOR YOU....

sweatnosejackso's picture

How the Hawthorn berry holding up.

sweatnosejackso's picture

Keep me updated.

SL's picture

yea hawthorn berry and habiscus tea great for bp

sweatnosejackso's picture

I will keep an eye on this!!

Doc's picture

Interesting thread. Some prefer big pharma and others prefer nature (holistic, herbal, or whatever you prefer to call it). BOTH can be effective and BOTH can cause serious harm. I tend to get more anxiety when a patient prefers the advice of some forum or herbal companies ads/magazines/etc. with no regulation whatsoever or controlled clinical trials. I see patients die all the time because they believe they will be cured by some supplement their friend's neighbors cousin swears by - instead of following the advice of a trained medical professional. My own dad falls into this category - even though he is a retired doctor as well. It's sad and shameful to watch people you care for die FASTER because of blind stupidity endorsed and supported by an unregulated industry. My advice - be cautious and wise. A wise man learns from his mistakes but the wisest man learns from someone else's mistakes.

Doc's picture

Agreed. Back to the environment vs genetics. Too much blame on genetics for more generalized conditions such as mild to moderate obesity with slightly elevated bp, or early onset of diabetes due to diet, or even mental and mood stability. For these reasons and much observation combined with knowledge on current and past scientific literature, I tend to lean 70% environment and 30% genetics for the most common generalized conditions - NOT a malignancy or truly dominant condition unrelated to environment.

Mekanik's picture

I was curious too.. so I Googled it and read a few articles -
some feedback:
can cause cardiac arrhythmia and dangerously lower blood pressure while some mild side effects could include nausea and sedation.

Seems it can lower BP, now I wonder if because it is made by mature if it is better than a scrip of a statin. I think I spelled that right.

SL's picture

Hibiscus and green tea are suppose to help, especially the hibiscus from what I've heard

shawncito's picture

I'm doing moderate cardio 3 days a week for 20 min. My BP is great, so I guess that's enough cardio until something changes, right?? Kuddos to tread for the BP monitor suggestion!

sweatnosejackso's picture

I started cardio and 2 baby aspirin a day as well as 90 minutes cardio a week and and watched the sodium now I am g2g. Oh yea and upped my water intake to around 1 1/2 gallons of water a day. Sometimes more but at least that much.

sweatnosejackso's picture

Yea some dude with a gorilla for an avatar suggested this to another member so I ran with it. Thanks gos to you. I will mention to him as I have never had blood pressure issues in the past. I went into this blast with a little to much abdominal fat looking back. More than ever before plus I am no spring chicken anymore. I have learned a wealth of info on this site. My next blast will include hgh,var and propionate. I may need some direction with it. After this blast I am going to shred my weight down and build up properly. This cyp is some really good clean shit man. Beats the shit out of the Brovel stuff I used 5 years ago.

Mekanik's picture

I just knocked out a 10 mile mountain bike ride today for lunch.. my BP has been low all afternoon. Nothing like getting outdoors and putt-in the hammer down.

3 months ago that would not have been fun... on HRT ... no ISSUES.
My BD is coming up I think I may hit an extra T Prop 100 mg for some good BD wood in the hood!

Lovin it'

Mekanik's picture

roger that - preparation was key' Lets just say I had a great BD and slept like a newborn baby last night! If there had been an earthquake I would never have known.

Also capped my evening w/ a New York Strip and some asparagus...mm-mm

manlytt's picture

I'm not even gonna start my next cycle unless I know my bp is under wraps. I eat real clean not much red meat, but during my last cycle I neglected my cardio and I know better. I got lazy with it and it plays such a big part in your gains. When my cardio is spot on I'm good for about 20 percent increase in strength. 5 to10 more reps. I'm including twenty minutes on the precor ant machine now before each workout. I'll be doing a core class once a week also. I'm hoping to be ready to jump on cycle in december. The cardio has been hard to jump back into, I do know that it is getting easier so that's a good sign. 136 over 80 was my last check. The bp monitors are cheap and almost essential, props to tread on that

JackedBoy's picture

My BP is pretty high I'm thinking about using BP meds...any advice from anyone or experience???

Greg's picture

If your BP is dangerously high your doc will script you BP meds to help prevent your pending heart attack.

It shouldn't become your new "maintenance drug" so you can avoid doing the hard work. You need to focus on correcting your diet and exercise. So you don't need the drug.

JackedBoy's picture

Definitely need to up the cardio game, i dropped 37 lbs since april and i think that has helped some, been esting very clean for a bit now. Been thinking about maybe giving up coffee (i drink 2 cups a day)....does COQ10 or redyeast rice help with BP...I'd rather not go on meds....doc said that i needed meds but that was 37 lbs ago...also alot less stress in my life right now...

firefly's picture

By far, the easiest way to control high blood pressure is to take a bp medication. A cheap one like Lisinopril. It only costs $10 for 90 pills from Wallmart and those other pharmacies that have a discount plan. I take it and it is effective and no side effects. 500 mgs. of testosterone a week would jack my blood pressure up to 160 over 90.

shawncito's picture

Ha!

firefly's picture

There are millions of people in this country that take bp medications. They are a life saving drug. Those warnings you list are standard disclaimers that are on every drug.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Yes, standard disclaimers to cover BIG PHARMAS ASS!
I agree with grrl and tread... Diet, exercise and even homeopathic remedies should be explored and considered FIRST.
VERY dangerous mindset and belief system that a pill is the "quick and easy" solution.
my .02

Cassiousclay's picture

I'm already prescribed a statin drug. Have been prior to AS. I take all the no no steroids and my BP remains the same. Everyone is different. Before you invest hundreds in juice, spend 70 and buy a home meter. Check it regularly.

AZDMD's picture

I have a supplement store and the best feedback I have been getting is from a supplement called Kyolic formula 109. I have also used and it does seem to be effective, its just not a quick fix like bp meds, but it does seem to work without the side effects of some bp meds, feeling tired, lethargic, etc. The ingredients in this formula are aged garlic, nattokinase, and l-theanine.