posted Sat, 12/08/2012 - 07:28
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TEST E/ DECA/ 1-TEST CYCLE
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
6'2
200lbs
11%BF
29 yrs old
4 prior cycles including: Test E, Test Prop, T400, Dbol, and EQ
So I'm debating running a cutter or a bulker...a lot of which depends on the next EBC. I know Cdaddy...you mentioned running the test lower than the 1-test bc of 1-tests high bondage to the androgen receptors, but my concern is the Deca. No PCT going to taper into TRT.
| Week | Testosterone E | Test Prop | TBOL | Deca | 1-Test Cyp | GH | Caber | Arimidex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 125 EOD | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | ||
| 2 | 600mg | 125 EOD | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | ||
| 3 | 600mg | 125 EOD | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mgEOD | |
| 4 | 600mg | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | |
| 5 | 600mg | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | |
| 6 | 600mg | 60mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | |
| 7 | 600mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||
| 8 | 600mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||
| 9 | 600mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||
| 10 | 600mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||
| 11 | 600mg | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||
| 12 | 600mg | 125 EOD | 400mg | 500mg | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | |
| 13 | 125 EOD | 3iu | .5mg wk | .5mgEOD | ||||
| 14 | 125 EOD | 3iu | .5mgEOD | |||||
| 15 | 2iu | |||||||
| 16 | 2iu | |||||||
| 17 | 2iu | |||||||
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Where did you find the 1-test cyp? stuff is impossible to find now.
AnonResearxh
RustyhookerSeveral sources carry it. You gotta research. No source talk.
I will be starting a similar cycle in a few wks... 300deca is MY sweet spot... And I think 29 is a little young for TRT bro
wks 1-4 drol 75e
wks 1-14 TE 500ew
wks 1-14 1-TC 600ew
wks 1-12 Deca 300ew
wks 13-15 mastp 150eod
TRT 125 cyp is my taper bro
4500 cals ed
my goals are self explanatory
AnonI really like the look of this cycle. I agree 29 is young for TRT, for normal circumstances. I trained with an ex-navy seal at 16 and he gave me Enan 250 and very little instruction. I have always loved researching AAS and had a decent idea of things I would need post cycle, but never had access. Second cycle was spring of my senior yr in HS with Enan again. Third cycle was summer before and leading into College football and used dbol and T400 at 800mg a wk. After coming down off of that cycle with no pct, I went into a severe depression, quit college, damn near suicidal and sexual dysfunction galore. Have been on anti-depressants ever since and still had all of the negative sexual sides, so I had a Test level test about 2 yrs ago and I was at 306, which they deemed just a little too high to justify TRT. So thats my story in a nutshell brotha...skipped over all the marrying (now divorced) a stripper and having kids stuff...dont wanna bore you with all that drama...hahaha.
this looks exciting I'll be following on this one! also I'm no pro but shouldn't the 1-test be ran higher then the test E and why have deca in the mix, wouldn't it be better to just drop it? this cycle looks very similar to something I've considered down the road, test, 1-test, and t-bol combo.
I like a lil nandro in all my cycles (minus tren) its a great joint lubricant and a little water helps with a heavier push
lol further reading and it seems all this has already been addressed .. look forward to seeing updates on this one
Id drop the deca. You're gonna be pufferfish at that dose. If you want wet bulker go wet bulker but this is a wet/dry collage.
Not only that but GROWTH HORMONE will keep his joints healthy, no need for deca. Honestly EQ is better for my joints than Deca in my experience.
cdaddy7The deal here with running high test, Deca, and 1 Test together is this...with my cycle I found that the 1 test binds very strong to the androgen receptor similar to Tren which is evident by my advances in strength and the nipples getting sore....when I dropped the test down the issue resolved, but of course I had to raise my aromasin up to 25mg a day for bout 5 days and then dropped back to 12.5 eod and all is well....my concern is deca and Test together has a higher conversion rate to estro so now u got the 1 Test binding up the receptor strong....now u got a lot of free test with Deca in the mix to increase the conversion rate to estrogen....if u are using the Deca for joint relief then drop it back to 100-200mg....then drop ur test to 300-350mg....if ur using the Deca for any other reason IMHO I would just leave it out bc the Tbol, prop, test e and 1 test will yield u very nicely....we can tweeak the mgs to make it a bulker or cutter without Deca....
Anonyeh I think its unanimous that no one likes the deca, but i may run it at 150wk for joint relief. So the next question would be, is there any benefit to running EQ along with this for 16wks or is this still overkill
cdaddy7Overkill bc 1 test is the tweaked version of EQ....It's dihydroBOLDENONE...it has the 200:100 ratio so It's nice and potent
whats your goal goliath?if they keep rotating the next ebc will be a bulker. imo, the debate on how much test to run with the 1-test cyp would be dependent on this. i think if you are cutting run the test e at 300 and the 1-test cyp at 500. if you are bulking i might split them even at 500. i def have limited cycle experience but have put in a lot of time on research so like the others have said zewi,caddy, and p are the ones to consult since they are currently running it. me personally, i dont like the deca here. the 1-test and tbol are going to have such quality gains and the deca is going to hold water so i feel its out of place. if you are running this to help with joints i would drop it down like you were talking below to 150mg/week...probably wont need caber then but would have it in case you run into issues
Drop CDaddy a line, he's well into his 1test cycle so should be able to give you some great personal experience. P is also 4 or 5 weeks into his 1test run.
I'm not going to give any advice, haven't used the compound so have nothing to offer of sny merit. I do agree with what J223 said about keeping it simple so you see what the 1test does for you.
Well you sounds like you really wanna give this 1-test cyp a spin to see what it's all about. Another suggestion I have for you is to simply run test and 1-test combo
example
Weeks 1-14 Test Enanthate (300-600mg)
Weeks 1-12 1-Test Cypionate (400-500mg)
run that all by itself and see how it works. You may find DHB is better on low dose of test, or you may find it works with a higher test dose. What it all comes down to is how does your body react to it? I say run this cycle and tweak it how you like but the whole purpose is to see EXACTLY what 1-test does.
Then if you wanna throw it in later cycles with EQ and turinabol, who cares. but for now try out the 1-test and see how it works
AnonNot to force the issue but if i were to run a low dose of deca say 150mg/wk, would that still merit the use of caber?
Anonbest advice yet...your exactly right...tryin to get too cute with it
Why so many comounds?
Anonhahah...you have the same response to all of my cycles Massive?
Hahaha i bet i do bro, its just IMO i dont believe in running 4 or 5 different compounds in a cycle unless i had about 8-10 cycles under my belt but thats me brotha cuz i wont ever try to relie on the gear ya know?.... But everyones different bro just be safe and maye leave out that deca.
Anonyeh, i may if at all run low dose deca just for the ol joints to help me throw up some big weight without fellin like my shoulders are gonna fall off
Nah bro your trippin. Your running boldenone which is better for joints than deca based on how much increase in the rate of collagen synthesis boldenone increases by 340% where deca is only 270%.
deca, eq, primo, and anavar all increase the rate of collagen synthesis (joint rebuilding) so does winstrol but winstrol decreases collagen cross linking integrity which leads to painful & weak joints.
Growth hormone not only increases collagen synthesis, but it also increases collagen deposition rate to damaged joints. Therefore, GH is best for your joints. Leave the deca out
i agree with j223, test/1-test/tbol will do u well, thats my next cycle...
Anonwhats your cycle look like boss?
750 test, 500 1-test, and a tbol/prop kicker
Nice to see that there is other fans of Tbol, That's thinking old school for sure.
Anonso what is your response to cdaddys thought of running lower test than 1-test?
this is going to be my first run with 1-test so i don't really know, but i trust his opinion, it also might depend on your goals....usually its higher test for bulking and lower for cutting
Personally I'd drop the deca completely and just use the 1-test. If anything use deca for joints 150mg per week is plenty.