posted Tue, 05/27/2014 - 19:46
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+ 12 Kefei Serum Results from X
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Standard protocol followed...10iu im in delt 3.5 hours before blood draw.
Very impressed with the results. X is back on his game right when we need him to be.
Good looking out, X!
Update: 6/11
Igf is in at 4ius a day for 3 weeks. Solid output for me.
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fr sent bro i wanna ask u some questions about kefei since were both running them.
AnonGot you bud.
Wow awesome resuls thanks so much for the test. I am running kefei right now pre-contest also and compared to riptropins im holding less water and getting leaner.
glad to see your getting some gear that shows results bro!
Thankls for your repeated testing and efforts !
AnonThanks brotha!
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noob941+1 FOR BLOODS
AnonAppreciate that, man!
Huge +1
AnonThat's the century mark!! Thanks brotha
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PermalinkAwesome info thanks for posting!!
AnonThanks bro!
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PermalinkThanks for posting! Looking forward to the IGF-1 results! +2
Stay on them for a couple weeks and do an IGF, it is really the only way you are going to know. If the serum test is any indication they should be off the charts with IGF. But the past has shown us a high serum does not necessarily translate to high IGF or sometimes any appreciable IGF. Thanks for getting bloods.
AnonFor sure man. Couple more weeks and we will see that igf!
He knows the drill brotha.Put him under my wing lol. He just wanted to test GH serum so he would have a reason to keep pinning
looks promising +2. When will you be testing IGF?
AnonWord! Figure two more weeks and I'll be primed up good!
Hopefully when those come out everyone reads carefully because I'm not running 8-10 iu's a day until then. Will probably stay at 4. I
Don't feel like looking all bloated like a fuckin sausage with ears like I felt like this whole holiday weekend after that 10iu bang! Lol
I think 4 iu is a great dose for everyday use and also for testing. If it is good it will show at 4iu. My first experience with Gh was with X's Kefei. I did not test it but for me it did seem fine, although my bro would get a red welt wherever he injected it.
that is actually quite a common complaint I hear with them
BillLumberghI got these from hyges after switching back to them from nords. but never got them from hyges before I ran the nords. Thought that was odd. Of course it could be a coincidence.
AnonI did some reading up on this the last week because I was getting a little of the sub-q welts. They weren't awful or anything...annoying more than anything.
The best I can conclude after a lot of reading is that there is something in their process that leaves an impurity some people react to. Not a contaminant like you will get sick. Growth is made with ecoli bacteria, so even the best pharma has some amount of impurity, albeit small. Obviously as we branch out to non-FDA regulated stuff the odds increase that this will be overlooked.
But the remedy is really simple. IM injections. I am used to these. Delts and tris make it easy to rotate. No problems at all since I made the switch.
Aren't the red welts a common issue with 192aa growth hormone? I can't remember who it was but I believe one of our members was getting red welts and it was because it was 192aa instead of the 191aa sequence. I believe your body can also build a type of immunity to hgh if you keep using 192aa. I have to refresh my memory...going up top to the old eroids magnifying glass.
AnonWell, that is one of the things I read as well...
But if I hadn't spent a few hours continuing on every board I could find, I may have thought that, too. So, why is it not 192AA?
Because even 192 takes a few months to build up immunity to before you would see the welts. Not to mention, there is nothing more than anecdotal evidence out there that red welts from sub-q shots would be a result of this immune response that reendera the 192 inmedective.
I have to say that after speaking with some friends who have run keife for 6+ month periods, and a vast majority of the reputable peoples posting I read who did also, it seems pretty definitive that they are 191.
It is an unfortunate side effect because it causes so much doubt and fear in an already very risky market. It's really hard not to with all the money we shell out for this stuff, but I feel pretty confident that it is nothing more than that. Too many experienced users getting results long after they would get them with 192.
I'm not gonna argue a man who does his research. I hear about "red welts" with a sub q shot of gh and that 192 crap comes right to mind. I don't know much about keife to start a good debate. I just hate reading when one of us gets sick or hurt because something we're injecting is not what's stated on the label. Do your thing brother, nice work with the research and bloods. Be safe and stay healthy
AnonThank you, buddy. I really am with you. I mean, I noticed I had gotten a couple, but thought I was just not going deep enough under the dermis...idk, suddenly it just dawned on me like "fuck, I've heard people complain about this."
Anyways, as you can tell after a lot of time reading everything I could find - and the simple fact that kefie has been around for at least 7-8 yrs that I could see - my best instincts tell me we would see more negs about results than red welts from sub q's if they really were 192. Take it for what it's worth, but that was the conclusion I've come to.
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yeah i just stooped running nords. the 6 ius had my feet and hands swollen. taking a week off then going to run it back at 3ius
AnonDude, that can actually be trouble for the injury healing properly. For instance, if something is out of place and then heals in a new position....
I have a friend who experiences this with a broken collar bone. Tried to speed up recovery and now he's all out of whack.
Mr.pumpThanks for testing brother!! +1 sssshhhh, I think I can hear u growing! Lol
AnonHahah!!! Mr. Pump...aka Chuck Norris!!
Mr.pumpChuck Norris !! Lmao!
Not doubting this, but I thought it was best to test both the GH and the IGF levels?
Best time to test IGF is after you have been running GH for at least 3-4 weeks
AnonThat's a good question....
Not necessarily done at the same time...igf can be tested for as well, but the protocol followed is for a GH Serum Test. Igf testing is something you do after you've had some time using the same product...that way you know you've arrived at those levels of igf as a result of the growth hormone in question. The reason for this is the increase in igf is a secondary response of the body. When exogenous growth hormone is administered the liver produces more igf with a peak concentration at roughly 24 hrs after growth hormone is injected. Taking into account people often pin twice a day, it takes some time to achieve stable igf levels. I have not had enough time on these to do so yet.
GH serum, on the other hand, is testing for the immediate marker of exogenous growth hormone in the body. That response is best determined following the protocol outlined above.
Hope that helps, brother.
thanks for doing this...I'll order some soon
Nice bro thanks for the labs!
AnonThank you, buddy!
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