posted Mon, 01/28/2013 - 07:29
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How many times can you stab that vial?
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Hi guys. I'm new here. I've been on TRT for around half a year. Never did steroids when I was younger, just trained hard and ate as well as I could. At 150 mg of Test Cyp a week (divided into Mon & Thu doses) I feel good and my physique looks as good as it did in my 30's. At least I think so ;-)
Here's what's on my mind:
A 10 ml vial at 250mg/ml lasts me around 4 months! o_O
10 ml x 250 = 2500
2500 / 150 = 16.6 weeks
number of times a draw needle goes through the stopper: ~ 32 (I try to stab through the same hole each time)
Will the stopper self seal enough to keep bacteria out? Maybe I'm over thinking this...
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In order to maintain the bottles integrity it is best to pull a vacucum grater than the initial deposit. Upon your first draw you will add a little more air to the bottle then the amount you draw leaving behind a positively pressureized bottle. 32 sticks of a moderate gauge needle 20-22-25 will weaken the stopper but will not allow any particulate to pass thru. If the stopper begins to show a rough texture it's time to change bottles.
I use a 20g & stab it more times than I should, but never had any issues with debris or leakage . There have been times, to save money I blend different chems in one bottle, as opposed to blending in the barrel.
yeah i only use 21g to draw if its above 300mg/cc of anything so using a smaller gauge is good. ive had some 25ml jugs that i draw 1cc from ... totaling 25 stabs, and even though it looks like its been through a meat grinder it still holds up. Swab the septum every time with alcohol.
You should be ok for pinning like everyone says below but I like to get 2ml vials or amps for my TRT
thats what the stoppers were made for so you should be ok
As long as you don't use a gigantic needle you should be fine..22-20ga works fine for drawing.. I've even done it with a 27 when I lost my drawing needle LOL works but slow
Thanks for the input. I use a 21 gauge to draw, and a 25 to inject. It takes me a bit of time to push a mere 75 mg through a 25 g. I think I'd have to take the morning off to draw and inject with a 27 g. LOL.
i dont use a draw needle, i always draw and pin with 25g. it takes a while to draw the oil but its fine.
That's good to know! Thanks for the response. I'll give it a try sometime.
make sure you put air in the vial with the needle to make pressure inside of the vial