first cycle planned out but expert advice always appreciated :)
i am going to be running premixed deca/test at 200mg/ml test and 150mg/ml deca.
this will be weeks 1-10. (twice week)
i will also be running dbol at 40mg.
this will be through week 1-6. ED
i have some test enan 200mg/ml.
for weeks 10-12. (end of injections at week 12)
i will also be running stanozolol 50mg ED.
weeks weeks 9-15
three weeks clomid therapy 2 weeks after last injection.
i also have nolva at hand in case of sides.
any advice or changes i should make. i have researched a lot over the passed year. read a lot of mixed opinions on how to play out first cycle and pct tips. can anyone point out if im going wrong anywhere.
i am 85 kg ata round 15% this drops by around 3% when i am in training phase. i am 24 have weight trained seriously for passed 2 years and casually since i was 19.
my aim is to gain significant amounts of muscle. hoping to land at around 90kg after weining of the test and hardening up off the winny and a few weeks cutting after a rest.
i am trying to kinda of make the most out of first cycle and get major results.
anything else anyone can suggest adding or way of doing it?
my workouts will be consisting of mainly 3 day split heavy compound routines.
i do alot of cardio through Muay Thai and MMA.
sorry about the essay i just thought i would try and explain situation to save time.
i have read abit about hcg should i buy some of this aswell? i didnt want to add any complications.
thankyou very much and i appreciate the help.
cheers and happy lifting.
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while i have the gear with me, do you reckon that combination would be good for major gains? at a later date maybe
i am starting to think that maybe just running a cycle on just test to understand how my body reacts to it. i could always keep the other stuff for later. im sure i can hold off to the new year before going mad on it.
Thats alot compound Bro! Run Test C or Test E at 500-600mg for 10-12 weeks. See how your body reacts. Running all that you wont know what is causing what if sides get out of hand. I also like aromasin @ 12.5mg ed instead of Nolva. My first cycle was Test c @ 600mg and the gains were amazing. Good luck!!
so you reckon i just hold off the vial of deca/test for now and maybe just run test on its own. you rekon still worth starting with the dbol before the test kicks in? just do tester cycles of each compound. then start making a more structured cycle later on.
did u NOT even attempt to do even minor research on the compounds I suggested? Apparently not cuz ur still stuck on dbol... for fighting purposes there are MUCH better "kickers" than dbol
i actually do like the sound of the tbol. i think id be able to gain good strength whilst getting a bit leaner. wouldnt damage my ability to train as much as packing on the pounds as fast as possible would. should i run the tbol for say half of the test cycle of around 10-12 weeks?
tbh i have just got back work and havnt been sat at a computer for any length of time. i will be looking into stuff in the next few hours. i have dbol at hand thats all but dont mind saving it that later date. not stick on it at all. just literally have not had a moment to look into stuff since your comment.
er on.
yeah bro, test e 250 2Xwk for 10-12 wks will give u great results (with proper diet and training) you could run a dbol kicker but for fighting i'd probably lean more towards tbol or (moreso) var but to be honest I'm not comfortable "laying out" a cycle because your research seems flawed and you should dig in a little deeper before you start pinning.
RESEARCH: dbol
tbol
anavar
stanozol
and come back with some better understanding and be glad to help u out
(NOT trying to be a Dick.... GENUINELY trying to help u)
yeah i wasnt so sure to dbol but kind of decided i wanted to gain some big muscle. and go for the leaner cycle 2nd time around. i am trying to get as much research in and wasnt going to start pinning until i felt safe and sound with knowledge.
i was given some stan to take at the end, but i am kind of thinking maybe save this for next cycle.
and no i didnt take that as being a dick, if i cant accept advice i wouldnt of asked cheers.
a few people i know in gym have done oral only. or like month long test cycles, no pct. i could carry on with things iv seen people do that iv read are not advised or not worth while.
kind of want total structure, plan and understanding. the same as i would and other programme or use of supplements.
thanks for reply. sorry i write page after page lol.
WOW buddy slow down. For a first cycle you should only run test. This way you know how your body will react to diffrent compounds.
yeah i know it looks a bit complicated for a newbie. trying to not have more than 1 orala t a time with 1 injectible. not for health factors just to keep it easy in my head. kind of wanted to still get the most out of first cycle. make most of it.
Northern Geardose for test e is way too low. up it to minimum 500mg/WK