posted Wed, 08/15/2018 - 16:25
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+ 2 Pre-cycle blood work and 1 week in (in reference to my forum post)
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As promised here is the Precycle blood work and blood work 1 week into this cycle (had a bilirubin reading I had to get rechecked):
Weeks 1-10 Test P 300mg/week
Weeks 1-10 Proviron 25-up to 50mg/day
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 20-up to 30mg/day
I cant see image previews but the test with my T levels and high bilirubin was my precycle. The 1 week in test with fractionated bilirubin is the one with the headings and Red/Green color indicators.
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Just a thought.... you mention doing high intensity exercise already and I mentioned HIIT to deplete liver glycogen.... Anything high intensity will raise free test
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23310924
but you can also see in the study why not to take dbol or proviron or winny etc. while doing it, if sensitive to dht sides.
I have a pdf of that study if needed.
RustyhookerIm not seeing trt here if thats the question. Free test is in range. It can also vary day to day and with things like bf%. Higher bf...higher binding etc. Foods, exercise, stressors, on and on and on...effect the system.
Nah man I’m only 25 years old that’s what’s concerning I feel like that number should be higher on both ends. I’m low bf most likely between 12-14% I used to be around 8% when playing high level sports but I don’t condition near as much since my playing career ended, I high resistance train still and do light cardio but that’s about it. I have been super stressed out recently so that could have been a big factor. I will get the SHBG and everything done on my post PCT blood panel.
RustyhookerYa definitly let your dr look at sbh numbers. But what im seeing is well above range except free test. Your body changes daily bro.
Feel like it should be higher...lol. Your body is an organism. We just have more intellect typically but were just organisms. Changes daily occur at all levels. Test, estro, endorphins, etc etc .... thats why an endocrinologist maps out bloods for months/years when real issues pop up. Post pct bloods at least 6 weeks after it stops. Nolvas half life is huge.
Given your stats....ive got no ideas why youre even running gear. Thats insanity!!! And youre effing up your system and freaking out for what? Fix your diet. Fix your gym.
Yeah my plan is to hit an aggressive pct and test about 6 weeks after that. I’m highly considering buying a domestic HCG and throwing that intra-cycle at 500iu per week. I have planned to do a mid-cycle test as well.
First LDL HDL on the test with my free T is pre cycle second is 1 week into current cycle where my HDL is down to 25. I’m adding Niacin and possibly another supplemental aid to help with HDL/LDL and I enjoy HIIT so I’ll gladly throw that in.
I am taking both Tudca and Liv52 to guard the liver and that’s probably why my alt and such actually dropped even with an oral in the mix.
Get the HCG. Talk to me over PM about a protocol. I am concerned about natural testo so I consider HCG an essential, for now at least.
Talk about incomplete information. I’ve been chatting overs PM and on the other forum with only half the picture anyway you’ve got the picture and can help him out. I suggested 250iu HCG twice a week for the duration of the cycle and then into PCT 3 days after last prop shot. I’ve also suggested he stops the provi. This is effectively a first cycle so too much in here.
Low testo for your age. Id rather see a 2nd test done to confirm that. (levels can vary 100 points in hours)
Estro correspondingly low, at 11 many can get depressed.... But I wanna see SHBG... or at least a 2nd test confirming free test is so low
Still something is off. Not a good spot to start a cycle from, considering that each cycle, along with time; is going to know your natural testo lower than it should be.
You need a serious plan to recover natural testo when finished cycle. That starts with PCT, but continues with post PCT therapy if natural testo is low again.
Re: HDL LDL... were these measurements off cycle or on-cycle? If off cycle, you need to consider HIIT to deplete liver glycogen, or intermittent fasting. AAS will flip lipids in many too, so take a serious look at that.
Not worried about bilrubin considering enzymes come back ok... for now! That may change on cycle, so important to have organ support... hydration + milk diuretics like milk thistle/nettle products, liv52 or tudca etc.
Great advice.
No more than you'd give yourself Sam