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Been off cycle for 4 weeks now. Back to TRT protocol which is 140mg Testosterone Propionate / week (20mg pinned with a slin pin everyday) + 2.5iu HGH everyday. Back shot before hitting the Afters during the last party weekend. Dancing is life!

UncleYoked's picture

We can combine our strength and feast on the weak together

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This made me cackle so hard! lol "I don't discuss problems, I incinerate them!"

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Mac12769's picture

Still lookin solid Kap. Ok
Gotta show those to the Mrs, she’d get me a pair. Lol seriously though, she would.

alekaras's picture

Looking great buddy ++

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JakeKO's picture

Damn Bro! My first instinct was to make fun of the shorts. My second instinct was that if I looked good enough to be a a male stripper, God knows what I’d be wearing, LOL! Good for you, Bro!!!!

23Sparta's picture

Your back is savage bro. Disappointed you didn’t hit us with a lat spread

DavosD's picture

Wtf

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- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

can we help you?

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anvil's picture

Here is your 1 back.

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

My man, much appreciated, and much respect. Had to check out your pics, you look fantastic brother. I hope I look as good at 48 as you do.

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anvil's picture

Thank you, you are definitely will be or better.

DeeMan's picture

It's been awhile KAP. So you're a dancer huh? Hope all is well.

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

What up G!? I used to professionally. But my days of doing choreo and 8-counts are long gone. haha Now I just dance for fun.

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DeeMan's picture

Lol I'm good. I hear ya. When I saw this pic up top I was thinking you lost some weight but now I know this pic is when you were younger.
Anyways do you. Keep working hard

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No this is recent bro. I dropped down 10lbs after coming off cycle, and cutting out the growth completely for photoshoots. Just added it back it low dose 2.5iu.

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DeeMan's picture

O really? Ok. Your condition has always been on point though and love the fact that you use certain dosages that work for you, which is the key. 2.5 -3 IU would be to my liking as far as dosing.

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I find that 2.5-3iu to be the best "feel good" dose. Benefits without the sides. I didn't realize just how much water one retains from HGH until after I dropped it completely for a couple weeks. Even 5iu makes me retain more than I would've thought. After a week without any HGH I just tightened up everywhere and I could really see just how lean I really was.

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Teeeethreee's picture

Disturbed by how turned on I am.

+1 slut

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

that injection on a bed isn't for microdosing its a hell of a horse syringe bro! Just kidding though, you look great even off cycle...

Stokes500's picture

I dare you to walk in the gym and start training in that outfit….. that would be hilarious, just walk over to a bloke on flat bench and stand over him and start spotting him, start doing that film it and post it on TikTok and YouTube you’ll be rich get millions of views lol

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- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

I mean.. that's partywear for a gay fetish event I was attending. Not an outfit I'd train in. lol

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DeeMan's picture

Lol....doesn't get any clearer than that

simonmagus84's picture

The progress you’ve made over the years is something that should be showcased. What a tremendous achievement. If possible, would you consider posting a pic when your first joined Eroids compared to what your status now?

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

Thanks brother. The first pics on my profile are of me during my second cycle, if memory serves. I think I was about 24 back then. First cycle was 23 when I crossed over to the dark side. I started bodybuilding when I was 18. Weighed about 130 lbs at that time. Wrestled 103lbs freshman year of HS. So I was a tiny little twink when I started my journey. I training as a natty for 5 years and read everything I possible could about this world and was pretty well versed by the time I pulled the trigger on enhancement.

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simonmagus84's picture

I really like this idea of your trt protocol. I’ve been running my cycles at a really low dose lately Toft a smoother recovery. I’ve been entertaining the idea of running 6week cycles throughout the year with short esters administered in a similar fashion with your trt protocol. A group of guys I remember were promoting these short ED injection cycles using a low dose of short esters and they looked magnificent, claiming their recovery is always smooth. I understand everything is goal dependent but What are your thoughts on these short Ed cycles featuring short esters?

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I don’t worry about recovering my HPTA. Shorter cycles with short esters would be preferable if that was a concern for you. But I haven’t come off testosterone in 8 years. Just TRT between blasts. But I always use short esters for blasts (now for TRT too) just because I was the blast to start and to end quickly, and not wait around for the blood concentration to come up to level and down to level. And I have more control incase I need to adjust dosage of anything. Short esters ftw!

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simonmagus84's picture

I think I might try this method in the future. I’m running primo starting in May so I won’t be able to attempt this until sometime in 2025, but from that point on I think 6 weeks on 7 weeks off all with short esters. PCT would be included in the off weeks. I’m curious to see what the outcome would be.

DeeMan's picture

@simonmagus84 there's something definitely to that for sure. Especially when it comes to recovery. I PCT.
KAP has always thought outside the box. Makes sense though.

So what primo dose will you use?

simonmagus84's picture

Probably 300/400 mgs depending on if I decide to throw a little npp with it but I think I’m just going to stick with 300 mgs for now. Even at 300 mgs I’ll be injecting 2ml of total oil volume a week which is my max because I only inject in my delts. I would only rotate if I’m injecting short esters with slin pins. My injection technique is poor unfortunately so that limits my creativity for cycles.

DeeMan's picture

Yea we spoke on this before. I think that dosage isn't a waste, not sure why guys tend to think it is. I've talked to a few guys that agreed with me on this issue. I think alot of guys might have just gotten underdosed primo.
Guys back in the day did not use anything close to a gram of primo...not even close.

simonmagus84's picture

Agreed. I generally like running long, low dosage cycles for recovery. I did this for 16 months and my recovery was smooth while my natty levels just recently tested higher than ever. I don’t think massive doses are necessary unless competitive lifting, bodybuilding or physique shows.

DeeMan's picture

Wow 16 months! I totally forgot you went natty for recovery. Glad it worked for you.

Yea I'm over the you gotta use this amount in order for it to be effective stuff lol....out dated.

simonmagus84's picture

Agreed. You know I don’t run heavy cycles either. I’m going to roll the dice again on a low dose, long duration cycle come May/June.

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I would definitely be experimenting with primo more if injectable primo acetate was more readily available. Primo is tricky for me because it seems to heavily impact my estrogen and can crash it very easily. If I was using the acetate version I could drop it without suffering crashed E2 symptoms for weeks and have to pop dbols just to get some estrogen going in me. Just watch out for potential low E2 sides with Primo. Some people have no problem but low aromatizers like me sometimes have difficulty with it.

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DeeMan's picture

Yep you and I talked about primo knocking down E2. Seems to lower both of our e2 quite a bit. Had me feeling horrible when I first tried.

simonmagus84's picture

Appreciate the precaution and I’ve had this happen before. I will only be running about running 300mg a week with 200 mg of test c for about 20/24 weeks. I would consider running higher primo along with higher test, I’m just not fond of the oil volume that comes along with it, plus I got tired of pinning so much last time. We’ll see, but those short ester cycles would be test prop with either NPP, Tren ace or mast. I’ve heard Primo acetate comes with PIP.

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

Congratulations mate. Thats a body of work to be proud of. Test P for trt? Just out of interest why not E or C to reduce the amount of pinning sub q?

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there has been a lot of talk about microdosing testosterone everyday for TRT vs the standard 1-2x/week pinning schedule. the more often, smaller amounts dont cause such an influx of hormone that a single 200mg shot would or 2x 100mg shot would. those larger, less frequent, doses of testosterone causes higher amounts of aromatization in response, coupled with less desired side effects like higher impact on blood pressure ect. so daily microdoses of testosterone using a slin pin IM or even Subq has become more and more popular.

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SeeOhShow's picture

Love micro-dosing over here as well. Except I do it with test Cyp, but still with that same 20mg/day dosing schedule you do. I’ve been trying MWF lately, because everyone gave me shit about pinning long esters so often. Skin is definitely a little more oily doing it 3x a week vs ED. I’ll be most curious about T/E2 levels once I get bloodwork to compare 3x vs 7x.

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I'd be interested to see the compared bloodwork myself. Microdosing TRT can be done with any ester technically. And microdosing Cyp is fine too. Technically levels would be even more stable. The only difference really would be that I would be getting a slightly higher amount of test / week from that 140mg of prop vs cyp because of the weight of the ester. But don't listen to the naysayers. Until they've tried it themselves they don't have a foot to stand on. And just because they're pussies who recoil in fear at the notion of pinning everyday during TRT doesn't mean the rest of us are. Daily pins with a 30g slin pin is less of a hassle for me than pinning 1.5" 25g 2x/week. And the added benefit of lower fluctuation makes it a no brainer for me. Especially when I'm pinning HGH everyday with the same size slin pin anyways. What's one more injection? hahaha

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DeeMan's picture

I've always respected your way of thinking outside the box. I try and tell guys that we cannot generalize. What works for one man isn't necessarily going to work for another man. But naysayers will be naysayers but fact is like you said if they don't have a foot to stand on then how can they talk lol. I'd like to see a study myself on this method even though I would hate to pin alot.

simonmagus84's picture

I think you’d be fine with slin pins IM. I’m it sure if you use multiple injection sites but you can get creative with it if you’re using a 30guage. I’m considering ED injections in the upcoming cycles using slin pins and actually incorporating my arms as Injection sites. I’ve always been curious to see what the experience of injecting .1 or .2 would be like.

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Arms should be no problem. I've pinned biceps and triceps with 1.5" 25g in the past. Did that back when I was experimenting on myself with the whole "Deep, larger ml (never did more than 2-2.5ml though) as deep as you can go to deposit the oil depot as close to the bone as possible for the 'fascia stretching' Rambod fst-7 theory.' Then go train the same muscle that was pinned. Theory was that the depot deposited under the muscle belly or deep enough to stretch the outer fascia to allow for more muscle growth in that area. Did it work? Who knows... maybe. Not significant enough for me to say definitively. Just one of the experiments I've tried. Done 30g slin pins when experimenting with IGF-1 in arms, So pinning with a slin pin, be it test, hgh, or igf shouldn't be an issue.

Tried chest a few times but the depot always felt aggravated and limited movement and contraction of the pectoral muscles for me. So discontinued chest as a pinning site. Laterals are much easier and can take a good amount of oil.

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hermaðr8's picture

Biceps ain’t that bad. Did it with tren ace. Chest ain’t bad either. Small amounts if your doing it every day works well

DeeMan's picture

How you been man? Lol pinning isn't my thing that's all. But nothing beats everyday pinning for stability. You know me, stuck in my ways. Never know I might try. Thanks for that bit of info

SeeOhShow's picture

I’ve done 0.1 in my forearm before. Wasn’t even noticeable. But I do have ~16in forearms so there’s a good bit of meat to go in to

simonmagus84's picture

Yeah, you’re well equipped to handle that type of injection.

AK80's picture

Probably to STAY shredded. The longer esters have a tendency to make you retain more water. Doubtful he needs an AI @ only 140 per week, but more frequent pinning helps to alleviate that as well.

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i don't need an AI regardless. even while blasting, i don't need an AI. i don't aromatize very much at all.

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Jrblh2's picture

Still making gains good for you looks like a big weight gain from that pic you were insanely shredded in. Good work