posted Tue, 04/13/2021 - 12:24
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+ 2 My bloods on low dose test+ 500mg Primo
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Hi guys. Im following the site since a while and running my 4th cycle from eroids. I need advice about my bloodwork.. it shows no Testosterone sadly, but doctor said is it 8.36 (reference; 4.2-15.3) isnt that low for 150mg test e4d?
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150mg test E4D
500mg pharma Primo weekly
50mg Proviron daily.
Bloods taken after 5th week in cycle
First 4 week were fire i felt the test kicking in( oily skin libido skyhigh), i just hit a plateau i think. Its gone almost.
Any suggestion? Seems may eastro is a bit low, i guess my test is bunk and provi just killed my e2.. going to switch to another brand of test,decrease proviron to 25mg daily and see how it goes
I don't need karma, instead give me ur honest opinion.
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BigCactusYour test is trash or even bunk, 150mg e4d is 260mg test per week, that should put you way beyond middle range natty test levels. Which brand are you using?
I tell brand in dm
BigCactusI'm not gonna put the brand on blast, thats not my place but I've suspected it was this brand...
Contact the source and get it solved honestly your test levels with that dose is not acceptable.
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My docs said my test level came back at 8.36 reference ( 4.2-15.3 ) .. isnt that low for 150mg test e4d?
I see you are using the short ester prop, which is meant for everyday pinning or max every other day...
I'd suggest pin 20mg a day with a slinpin (shallow IM/delts), no reason to up your dose with the short ester, you gonna make things worse probably.
BigCactusHow is adding testosteron when his test levels are low and e2 is low making things worse? How is lowering his test levels even more going to benefit him?
I thought he was using test P all the way, but i missread it seems, so please ignore me.
BigCactusNo problem bro! It's all good you were trying to help!
I'm thinking he said, he might taper down at the end with test prop. I was assuming he wasn't using right now especially with his current pinning frequency. I could be wrong
you were right.
Halsey is right. Prop is taper down only
Ah ok!
I agree with Rusty on the provi and e2, but other than that, this doesnt show a whole lot besides being shut down. The provi, is an anti aromitiser as you should know.
My experience with running moderate primo with a trt dose of test, has been that the primo actually brings my e2 down a fair amount also(usually mid 30s to mid 20s). This is without changing or adding anything else( no ai or provi). I've seen this twice, once with 250mg/week and with 425/week of primo. 5 weeks might be a touch early to see what the primo might be doing too.
Thanks for the reply.
I will bump my test to 200mg e4d from 150mg e4d and drop the provi or take only 25mg daily instead of 50. Idk which would be a better chooise
Sometime less is more, especially if they are fighting each other, if you know what I mean.
What u say bro? 25mg provi or drop it? Bumo test to 200mg e4d from 150 or not? 10 eastriadol is very low i guess..
Listen to Rustys original answer
Rustyhooker 2 hours ago
Drop provi. 10 isnt good imo for e2. Leave rest alone too.
RustyhookerDrop provi. 10 isnt good imo for e2. Leave rest alone too. You went with primo to do its magic. Crashed e2 is slowing you down. Fsh lh of course is dropped becsuse youre on cycle.
Provi gone and i bet youre back up to horney etc quickly
Whats your pct plan?
So awkward that i take Provi with test since i love that ultra horny mood and i got the opposite now. Well i will bump my test to 200mg e4d i guess and drop the proviron to 25mg daily or tottaly drop it? What do you think?
Pct.. i will taoer down with test prop..and 3 day after last pin ill do 1500iu hcg/3x a week +50mg clomid+20mg tamoxifen for 3 weeks..then drop the nolva and hcg and take tamoxifen 20mg for 2 more weeks.
Also wanna add oxa for the last 6 weeks at 30mg. (14-15week cycle length).
RustyhookerDid i say bump test at all?
Taper with prop will ruin what primo did.
Ox....if youre sub 10% even primo should be single digit bf.
Thx for info, why prip taoer ruins what peimo did? Well last time i did taper down with prop my last primo cycle and it didnt ruin anything. even kept my gains after cycle.
RustyhookerThen you should be teaching us.....
If prop didnt change the look then youre not sub 10%. But you alrwady knew that.
Since my test is it in my normal middle range i thought it wouldnt be a problem do add weekly 75mg more. Specially with this low E2. Or you disagree? Anyway ill take ur advice for sure. I thought about the same to drop the provi or cut to 25mg.