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  • Velociraptor232   •   Sat, Dec 29th, '18 02:14   •   15 replies, 402 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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Bought 2 kits of the gray top puretropin. Ran it at 5iu's, dosed at 2.5iu's twice a day for right around 2 weeks. A nice 70ish point increase over baseline. Enough of an increase to justify getting more and upping the dose to see what it can really do. Very happy so far

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  • noquit
  • 7 months ago

Is anyone running Serums or is everybody stuck on IGF levels? What if his IGF is elevated due to something else he's taking but failed to mention? Or his IGF is elevated due to an underlying medical issue he knows nothing about that just cropped up? The only way to know for sure if u have legit GH is to see if ur serum levels increased after injection. 10ius IM 3-3.5 hours after pinning...If there's no GH in the vial then ur serum level isn't going up, but something else could be in that vial that spikes IGF levels..TRUE OR FALSE??

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  • Carlos Danger
  • 8 months ago

Wish hellrazor could chime in but is it the groups opinion that after 2wks of 5iu that his levels should be 500 min? Typically it’s 100 per iu in my experience but it’s always been my experience that testing should be done at 4wks minimum to get accurate labs. Are we now starting that the new accurate window is now 2wks?
Asking with serious intrigue as I use these kinds of labs along with others to gauge how I spend my hard earned money.

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Hellrazor told me 4 weeks. I think he tested early. The notes below on e2 crashed sounded interesting too.

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I mentioned my reasoning for testing at 2 weeks in my response to PPGfreak. The study showed significant increase in IGF-1 at just 7 days of HGH supplementation. However, I'll do my next test when I've been on 4 weeks just in case. Obviously its just one study. Only one I could find that tested that early. Gotta take it with a grain of salt. I had bloodworked pulled for sensitive estradiol and total test a couple days ago. Should get the results back Mon or Tues. If they come back normal I'll get IGF-1 levels along with a complete health panel in 3 weeks. If it comes back low again and all levels are normal then I think we'll have a much better idea of what's going on.

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  • Dope
  • 8 months ago

With 193 baseline you should be on the 500s on 5 iu ed

Respect

Dope

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As I mentioned in my other comment. My estradiol was <2.5 at the time of the 267 draw. Beared_muscle mentioned crashing estrogen could have played a part. Not much out there on it though. Found this study
http://m.jbc.org/content/275/24/18447 showing how estrogen plays a part in the signaling cascade for igf-1. I think that could of had a pretty strong effect on the results. I was actually looking for anything over 350 as a "good" number so expectations were a little low. I'm gonna get labs done again once my estradiol is back to normal, I expect those to come back much higher

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  • Makwa
  • 8 months ago

Your happy with IGF in the 200's with 5iu of GH? You must be real easy to please.

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  • ironlion
  • 8 months ago

100$ will be offered to you as credit store,
you can use it at anytime,

welcome everybody to test our puretropin(grey top or orange top ) and post the test results honestly

and help us to keep our quality or help us improve our quality , thanks

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  • ironlion
  • 8 months ago

thanks for testing our puretropin(grey top )
thanks for posting it honestly. thanks

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  • Rustyhooker
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Age: 28
Height: 6'3
Weight: 225
BF:

2 weeks.... i posted at 4 weeks at 2iu at a much bigger result. Might retest at 4 weeks. How many times on hgh? Your mixing bac with hgh protocol?

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  • Bearded_muscle
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Is that standard for you? If I ran 5 iu I usually pull IGF in the 500’s.
Are you:
Running any DHT’s?
Crashing your estrogen?
Taking any orals?
Have any liver stress?
Not venting your gh properly or perhaps mishandling it?

Like I said maybe those are good numbers for you personally but I would be very surprised and pissed if I turned them up myself on that dose.

Edit:
Created your account today I see.
You’ll need to earn credibility around here before anyone takes you seriously.

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Hey could you elaborate on how crashing estrogen could have effected Igf-1 levels. I found this study,
http://m.jbc.org/content/275/24/18447 that shows how estrogen plays a part in the signaling cascade for igf-1. Didn't make the connection between my low Estradiol levels and the low igf-1 number until I saw it in your post, light bulb came on. I had read about the negative effects of certain SERM's and AI's but figured since I had been off of those for almost a week the effects on Igf would be minimal. Really appreciate any thoughts or input you could share

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All I know is you need estrogen to convert it properly, also need adequate t4 to hit solid igf numbers.
This is why I think growth should be run solo, with nothing else in your system.

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Posting bloodwork the day someone joins is more than suspicious in my opinion. Plus your also right on the actual igf number. 5iu and getting under 200 is not good at all.

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My apologies. Not trying to seem sketchy or anything. Long time forum stalker, never got around to making an account til I wanted to post my labs. The 193 was my baseline. The 267 was after the 2 weeks on 5iu. First time using hgh, have run 4 cycles, 2 "real" ones. First 2 were prohormone only. Last 2 were with a test prop base, lots to learn still. As an athlete, I'm looking to improve performance at my chosen sport. The physique or aesthetic improvements are great but not the primary goal for me. I understand UG HGH can be very hit-or-miss. I was doing this first run to make sure it was real before i bought more. I decided to run hgh based of its effects on collagen synthesis in connective tissue. I could only find a couple studies that focused on connective tissue improvements in younger people, most i saw were on the eldery or GH deficient individuals. This one was on men around 30 years of age.
https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1113/jphysiol.2009.179325
Dosage was based off weight and for a 100kg person they were right around 9iu and 15iu respectively. Igf 1 levels were tested at 7 days in and 14 days in. Showed a dramatic increase at both increments. After seeing this i figured 2 weeks should be enough time to see results. As far as how I reconstituted and stored it. The vials were 15iu so they we're reconstituted for no more than 3 days at a time. They were kept in the fridge at all times, including the un-reconstituted vials. I diluted it with .6ml of bac water. Was very careful not to shoot it directly onto the powder, I let I run down the side very slowly. Unfortunately, I was unaware of the negative effects certain SERMs and AI's have on IGF-1 levels. And to make matters worse, as was suggested, my estradiol was <2.5 at the time of the 267 draw. Over did the arimidex the first week of pct. I'm assuming it definitely had an effect on the number. Obviously for my estradiol to be that low and still have a 70 point increase im pretty confident the hgh did something. Planning on running a higher dose, probably 10iu once I get more in. Staying at 5 right now, gonna get bloods done in another week to check on the Estradiol. Want make sure that's taken care of before I run labs at a higher dose of hgh. Not trying to be sketchy. Going to be hanging around the board and posting. If you all have any questions just ask