posted Sun, 11/27/2022 - 19:50
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+ 5 Igf1 blood test while on Armanis gold top somatropin.
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Many months of using this gold top gh from Arni. 3iu daily. Sorry, no I don’t know my baseline, wish I did. But at my age and health I wouldn’t expect it to be extremely low or anything. Idk, pretty bummed because I expected a higher result honestly. Especially given the fact that my estrodial was so high at this time. Thoughts?
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UPDATE: I found out from gh serum testing in the past that I had a .4 gh baseline. I do not have a igf1 baseline number to go off of but judging by the low gh base I would assume I had low igf1 as well. So I am happy with the score these gave me and for the price I think they are a great deal. I’ve bought another kit since.
Thanks for getting bloodwork and posting, TnTerror!
Do you take your dose fasted? No eating up to an hour after dose? My numbers are that high and sometimes higher walking around daily while on generic hgh (q-tropin). I pulled a test once and dosed while fasted in the parking lot and had the test pulled within 30mins of that fasted dose and i was low 500's. I run 2.5 iu. Everybody is right with getting baseline first...my baseline was in the 90s...but if u didn't dose within 30 mins of test you wouldnt know how high the hgh puts your number up. From what i understand about hgh is it isnt like test where it elevates your numbers for long periods of time and then tapers off till your next dose. Your number increases for a small window after dose and will come down some after eating and activity. I dose at around 3-5am and go back to bed till work alarm at 6:20. I dont want my dose to interrupt my natural release of gh upon naturally going to sleep. But fasted before and fasted for at least an hour after dose seems to best from what ive read and practiced. In traffic, sorry for grammar/typos....wondering if anyone has any input on my take on this?
Doesn't really seem to far off the mark for me with only 3iu. Hell for all we know without a baseline you could have been at 50. Some people might be pulling 300 off of 3iu but they are good responders to it. That is why it is so important to have a baseline.
Thanks for testing.
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Igf results are funny. I had readings from mid 300's- mid 400's- high 500's from. 5 i.u. there's many factors I don't think we fully know and understand about igf-1 testing
You are absolutely right. There are a ton of variables and most of the variables are debated by everyone. DHTs, AI, higher estrodial raising are igf1 results, etc. trust me, I know. I’ve been reading non stop trying to figure out why mine were so low when I was on absolutely nothing but test….
I wouldn’t buy it after seeing these results and knowing you’ve been on for months.
Idk whenever I used arnis gold top that's when I had the most effects of any hgh I've used. Amazing sleep the crazy numbness. I've had great results from arnis gold tops. Those are probably my favorite generic hgh.
Yeah, my hands were numb off lower doses when I started it as well. What do you make of the igf1 result?
You might of had very very low starting number plus your ai could have your numbers low. There's always factors but yeah people would probably think it should be higher but I had good results with the gold tops and nobody has every complained about his hgh. I never had a igf1 test but I could tell it was working good. And everybody produces different amounts of igf cuz it's made in your liver. So if you are running an oral or anything that stresses your liver that can make you produce less igf1 than you normally would.
Yeah that’s why I didn’t take any ai for weeks leading up to testing, hence why my estrodial is a 72. I was on absolutely nothing but trt dose of test e. Nothing else. No orals. No serms. No dht. No ai. Nothing. I agree with you, for the most part I felt it was working too, mainly because of the numb hands. No arguement there at all. Like I told him, the last batch or two I felt the cts symptoms had subsided for the most part, I credited that to my body just becoming use to the dose more for whatever reason. And yes, no one complains because of the price and the sides. BUT your igf test and mine are the only ones that I have seen on it. I searched and searched for info on them when I began buying them and there was no blood work to show me anything. Maybe there are more blood work posted and I missed it but when I looked for info on them none were available. That’s why we post bloodwork. Guessing your e2 and going off of feelings isn’t the best route when bloodwork is an option. I’m not making any accusations, I just posted the black and white science and everyone can make up their own minds. I offered him to send me another kit and me re test, he didn’t respond. It is what it is.
Your body should get used to it after awhile and then the sides like CTS subside but it will still be elevating IGF. Slowly ramping up dose is best way to avoid the sides.
That’s what I figured had happened, I just got to where I was tolerating the dose better, and ready to move up to a higher dose. I remember when I first started these the cts was bad at 3iu so I dropped down to 2iu for a while then went back up and it was tolerable. It is very possible I am just not a good responder to it. Like you said, obviously it IS working hgh, and I’ll know more the next time I test. How long would I have to completely stop to get an accurate baseline, and are there any lingering suppression effects from long term use?
Go off for a couple of weeks and you for sure should be back to baseline. No long-term suppression from extended use. May have issues with insulin sensitivity if running higher doses but 3iu shouldn't be problem.