posted Thu, 07/26/2018 - 12:35
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+ 1 Igf1 after 3 months of somas
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The igf1 result is after using somas from Karl at sciroxx. 3 hours prior to test 10 iu was administered. For 3 months Monday thru Friday approx 5 iu was used in the morning. 100 iu per month exactly. Clearly not an elevated result at all. Karl states it's elevated though..?
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My baseline is 107, so not to be a dick but this is an elevated igf level. Where’s your baseline bloods, have you really run a proper protocol, do you have follow up labs or are you just trying to get a refund ?
RustyhookerIrishbomber86 2 days ago @Rustyhooker
Lmao...who the hell would put up real demographic info?? You weigh yourself this morning and make sure you updated your eroids page? Change it on your birthday? How about you post your address to...
Well sir, you took no base numbers prior. You keep changing doses. Changing 5days and 7 days. Yet keep bulk ordering. While being passive aggressive. While bloods posted show odd free test readings. While running only test and hgh. While lieing on stats. While trying to hustle a source. While not understanding hgh.
Youre just completely full of shit. What part exactly is true? You know, boy who cried wolf and all. But still bulk orders.
I hope the source shares this as a scam
Age is listed as born in 86? Lmao gonna make people count .
Maybe he has secondary Empty Sella Syndrome like me. That will probably get deleted.
final warning on fixing your stats. I cannot even figure at 31 why you are wasting your money on Gh anyway.
Done with this post.
If I'm not mistaken you can delete this yourself. I know for a fact you can delete the picture. The fact that you haven't and hes running a promo makes it look worse. Those of us that have been here awhile have seen this stuff before.. good luck.
I have been following along and you have made a lot of claims. At 258 your IGF is elevated, I have suspicions you are not following protocol or possibly just don't react well to GH. Follow protocol for a GH serum test and see what kind of numbers you get. I know I have ran Soma's and many other guy's have ran soma's with no complaint.
A lot of claims. Just one. Ran 5 not 6. Easy mistake. But hey we're human.
Can we close this post? Seriously.
This is sheer lie, a lie which is easy to spot.
I've been communicating with you with good will to help, I respected and took for granted all the info you provided, but when I realized there is a severe calculation error you denied it, you said I'm spinning or twisting things, you denied the date you started the GH, while I have it on PM from you, you denied to length of usage while again it's easy to know it based on your PMs and on my discussion thread, simple lies. You repeated multiple times along time that you've used 6 iu (with no days off), till I spotted the miscalculation
When you posted the lab tests you somehow CHANGED all your claims so they match the truth, but any member here who's spent 10 minutes on the details and your story inspected the lies, check for posts below.
Be honest and straightforward and you'll get all the support and respect
Please repost where I said i ran it 7 days straight.
You told me repeatedly you've been using 6 iu a day, you've involved the 5 days protocol later. I have it on PMs and it's all over my discussion page
Anyhow if a person who uses such an expensive product for 3 months, test it and make big claims doesn't know what dosage he used, when he started and for how long, and changes his story so it'll fit his narrative and claims I personally wouldn't trust his whole report
Anyhow, this is not a court, and what we all want including you is to learn and get to truth, can we agree on this ?
Lets retest like suggested and we'll all learn , I don't think anyone may lose from this
I've been explaining to you about the adjustments
I would like to point put again -
The protocol, the usage itself are all based on invalid claims which have been changed along his report, it's easy to spot the conflicting and contradicting reports Irishbomber provided long his usage, you may just refer to his PMs as well as to my discussion thread, and members were alerted to this, this is not what we're looking for as a community
I'm interested like everyone else to get to the truth, after all a read of 258 ng/ml is reasonable following the facts here
I offered and offer again, considering that Irishbomber claims that no product was left so he can't take GH serum test like I strongly suggested, that he'll get another kit from me, follow a proper protocol of 3-6 IU per day divided into 2 daily injections which will be suited to his daily schedule and daily training routine, and we'll get both GH and IGF1 serum test.
I don't think anything but good learning experience both for this respected member and for us as a community will come out of this
I repeat and state that the quality of the GH he got is guaranteed, a little harder for a supplier to control each individual test, but based on his report and 258ng/ml read I'm very confident that with proper usage, testing and some honesty we'll see the result he expected, I don't think that there is any hidden syndrome or problem here, just need careful usage, protocol and of course honesty that we'll all appreciate
Irishbomber - raise kindly the glove and lets retest and log it properly
Man just get a pharm pen 36iu from a Dom source on here and re test. Easy.
Lol. Idk we'll see.. ever try any that way?
I’ll tell you saizen 5/6iu EVERYday puts me just at 600 igf. Im like the terminator
Yep !
6-8 iu eod of norditropin pens from parmacy put me on 500-600 igf depend what else i am runing
Get pharma brother
Respect
Dope
I ran that high and could never get to 500. I usually tested 350'ish. We all process this stuff differently.
True i i also got high igfs from generics too
But the look is not the same pale my brother ! Huge diference
Respect
Dope
True story, Saizen at 3iu a day didn’t even have me break 300
Fr sent. Had questions for you
NotNatural23If you started at 5ius and never did GH you would know within 2 weeks. Most people get CTS syndrome starting that high and not slowing going up. Gonna be hard to believe since he has almost no bad reviews on the GH he sells. Did you refrigerate it did you fill each one as you went not all at once? Maybe get a baseline test now that your off and see where you are at? Sleep apnea will severely affect IGf.
Nah dude.. left em out in the heat outside in the brightest place possible..filled em up with a water hose too.
Damn, what a waste of money and time.. sad
Thx for the post +1
CSI: eroids
LMAO. So true
I had 3 fasting blood panels done, all including test for IGF, before starting Somastim. Each showed a declining IGF. Before that, I had lost lots of weight, and was continuing to do so. I had been taking Serostim from my pharmacy, till my insurance changed. Since taking Somastim, my appetite has GREATLY increased. I'm eating like a normal person again. I've regained lots of weight.
So, either your stuff went bad for some reason, or... IDK. I have a hard time believing Karl sent you bunk. I have seen my IGF levels go up. That's not normal for someone with my condition.
I have a hard time believing you, after seeing everything that I have seen here.
Post your blood work then
Well, I had lost over 100 lbs of muscle, and was at 120 lbs at 6'4 (almost a dead man), to 170 in 2 months. So that speaks for itself. I have something the mods won't let me talk about.
I doubt the mods would even let me post bloods. Anytime I have tried to post stuff about my condition, they say it's too much personal info, delete my post, and deduct my Karma... Even though I didn't break any of the written rules... GO FIGURE.
I'm surprised they didn't censor my last post.
If someone wants to pay a private lab, I will go and get that done, and try to figure out a way to redact all the stuff on my old normal insurance bloods that identify me.
At this point, I have been on Somastim for a few months, and my doctor would have a lot of questions. Unless I pay a private lab, (which I've done once, and don't have the funds to keep doing). My insurance sends all my bloods to my PCP. I'm afraid that if I take a test for IGF with my insurance NOW, my doctor will cut off my HRT, and that's not worth it to me. I don't get a lot from him, but it helps. I add what I get from him, to the rest of my hormone treatment.
BUT, if someone wants to pay for a private lab, and setup a discreet testing, I will go, and get tested for whatever you want. I hope this doesn't get deleted, so I will be broad.
An injury to part of my brain, prevents my body from producing hormones. SO, I'm a good ginny pig.
I'm SHOCKED at how much lean mass I've gained so fast. But, I think that's because I was big before. But still, even without posting the bloods, you can see I've had progress on this.
MODS, if I did something wrong, please let me know, so I can edit this post, instead of it being deleted entirely, or deducting my Karma. Shukriya.
I think that brain injury has effected your judgement.
Seriously?!? You are asking for someone else to pay for your labwork. SMDH
Are you or any DHT’s? What’s you E2 look like?
There are other things that will keep your igf lvl’s down. But on average these igf levels are low. That’s a very general statement though as you don’t have a baseline to compare too. But +2 for bloods!!
Thanks for posting
No dhts.. what is your belief on the relationship between estrogen and igf1
Rustyhookerhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21839661/
Same reason he asked your cycle. It has relevance. You also posted bloods with insane level of free test. Showing that you ran more than just test and hgh.
Incorrect. Only used gh and test absolutely nothing else. I have only ever used hgh test and tbol/dbol months back. Have ordered but not used deca. you can even ask sciroxx ( gh and test ordered here) and ashop ( test dbol and tbol ordered here) also deca from ashop. Still haven't used that yet.
I wanna say the last time I used dbol or tbol was over 4 months ago
RustyhookerThen your free test is just mega high. Trippy.
That's what I thought too. Was surprised the total was that high on 300 mgs too. Bloods we're drawn on a Monday and the last shot was Tuesday the week before.
RustyhookerOne thing that happened to me around xmas was getting my baseline. There's a lower range for us older dudes. I just finished a successful cutter and felt great! Wanted to run hgh and got my baseline. 76....craptastic right. But as we age, its our reality. Enhanced above and trenabolic below are good dudes. Even if we find the shocking truth on one side or the other. Big picture sir. And well worth your time to figure out the missing pieces. Good luck sir!
True story. Luckily I'm 31
RustyhookerAge: 45
Height: 5 feet 10
Weight: 245
BF:
Im done here. Nothings added up yet. Good luck sir
X2 this shit's way to twisted for me...
Lmao...who the hell would put up real demographic info?? You weigh yourself this morning and make sure you updated your eroids page? Change it on your birthday? How about you post your address to...
Fix it asshole. It matters!
Change it on your birthday? Your stats say your 45 your only 31. That makes big difference in how people are viewing these numbers. Why the hell are you so defensive everytime your asked a question ? Your posting gear forums off a computer and you think your stats are gonna get you caught. Lmao Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
The fact that your upset that my stats ain't real is straight up retarded. Defensive? Umm your the one that said "I'm done." Honestly, who keeps there's updated and real.
Nm rusty said that.. either way
My thoughts are that your endocrine system works in concert (HPTA) Hypothetical pituitary testicular axis.
They don’t operate independently of each other. Homeostasis dictates this. Keep running this or jump on another brand but run the same international unit for 3 weeks & order the unisex hormone panel under bodybuilders in privatemdlabs.com then post up your bloods to show a more complete picture.
SERMs are well known for decreasing IGF1
Not on any