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First test before any HGH use:
IGF 1 = 167.0
h.G.H. = 0.305 ng/mL

Started on PPL Black Tops for a week 2-3IUs. I was going to use it for several weeks for IGF-1 levels to take effect first but decided to go ahead and get the h.G.H. tested because I was due in for bloods a month into my Anavar cycle.
1 vial pinned IM (half in each shoulder) at 6:50AM. Blood draw around 9:55AM:
IGF 1 = 131
h.G.H. = 23.90 ng/mL

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My IGF did go up on TP's Black Tops and I got the ct symptoms, then I got on PPL Purple Tops but decided to treat them as 20ius rather than the 24ius stated.

I was experimenting a bit for a 2 month period and every time I would pin 2.5 to 3ius, the ct symptoms would be more than 1.5 to 2 ius. I'll get my IGF checked and start a new post on Purple Tops in 1-2 months.

Appears legit in terms of sides which is a bit of a pain because I work on a computer all day.

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Hmmmm. So, I tested T.P.'s Black Tops (good reputation) for 13 days at 2.5ius daily. My IGF went from 128 (Dec 28th test) to 170 (test was Jan 10).

It's an increase. However, my pre-HGH use IGF was 167. Not making much sense but I'll have to run the TP Black Tops for a month and re-test to see if it keeps increasing or my body just isn't responding to HGH as one would think.

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I stayed on TP Black Tops for another month at 2.5 ius and was starting to get the carpel tunnel, sore forearms symptoms. Pretty annoying. IGF tested at 230 first week of February so Iooks like I'm responding to the HGH and TP's Black Tops are gtg as usual.

I'm giving PPL's Purple Tops a chance now and treating the 24iu vials as 20ius by reconstituting with 2mL. Will do 2ius daily or maybe even 1.5ius until these symptoms lessen. Or, possibly try it post workout only at 3-4 ius.

Will re-test IGF in 2 months.

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Well after a month on PPL Black Tops at 2-3ius 6 of 7 days per week, my IGF tested was 128 ng/mL.

Disappointed and not sure what to think but I'll be testing a different sources HGH for a few weeks to see if I react any different.

Then I'll evaluate the PPL Purple Tops (already ordered and shipped out before my last IGF results!)

I can post the labwork but I suppose it wouldn't go on this page.

TrenAllDay's picture

Sorry, the gh is no bueno. Do you think the contents of the vials from the black to purple are different?

From the numbers Your igf has only gotten worse after use

addisonvo's picture

Purples are stated to be the same as Blacks, just more ius.

I'm going to test TP's Blacks to see how things go for a month. If IGF is good, I'll test the Purples after and that'll give me a definitive answer.

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Update:

Well, someone brought something to my attention that I hadn't considered. So I've been an Anavar cycle, my first ever cycle, during the time I started using the Black Tops. Well, orals will have an affect on liver function, and since growth hormone tells the liver to release IGF-1, I may not been giving these Black Tops a fair chance. My liver values did go up from pre-cycle, a month into my cycle, even though still in normal range.

I just ended my cycle and have about a week left of the Black Tops. I'll get bloods done anyway next week, but I'm going to get more black or purple tops and trust the serum results until the next appropriate IGF test.

Makwa's picture

Lots of people on orals with GH and not seeing funky numbers like yours.

addisonvo's picture

Alright, I'll get blood work next week and see what's up. I wonder if the Liv52 I've been taking has any affect?

Makwa's picture

kind of strange results there.

gorillafit28's picture

That's what I thought

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I hear ya guys.
So I was actually on the Black Tops for 1 week before testing.
Still, the IGF being lower was a bummer so I was searching about fasting vs non-fasting before the blood draw and maybe one source said IGF could be lower if not fasted.
Either way, I'm going to re-test in a few more weeks or during my last vial before ordering more.

Haven't noticed any funny feelings in fingers or wrists, etc.

I should add this. So during the first week, I think I missed one day. Also, I totally screwed up reconstitution as the air vacuum sucked all the bacteriostatic water in fast directly onto the puck. That caused bubbles and I let that settle in the fridge. Then I tried another vial and felt better about it. It was my first week and rather than throwing the first vial out, I alternated between the two. So, I can't say I've been getting the HGH reliably during that week. I just really wanted to do the serum test while due in for all other blood work during cycle.

Bottom line, I'll re-test in a few weeks and we'll see. Hopefully all works out.

XmadXscientist's picture

Weird after two weeks your igf should be higher, especially since the GH tested out decent. I would not expect it to be around baseline test.

I would be asking questions if I were you.

Clayton8902's picture

Ypur igf should definitely be much higher of you've been on 2 weeks.

SwOleGuy2012's picture

Why is the HGH level so much higher on the 2nd? As far as IGF1, straight no change isn't promising looking.

Clayton8902's picture

That's due to him pinning 10ius pre bloods. That's to be expected, however, igfis more accurate for quality as many peptides can spike gh serum levels

1174's picture

Keep us posted.+ for posting bloods

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Posting this to share and of course Panda says he's still doing store credits for it.

I'll be using it for about 4 more weeks before taking the next bloods. Likely 3ius 6 days a week in the AM.

I don't think I'm feeling any sort of sides, not even after the 10ius for testing.

It's been a bit under 2 weeks of use.