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Current stack:
218.75mg GK Test C
87.5mg Ultima Test P
175mg Beligas Primo E
500mg x2 (daily) Metformin (pharmacy)
5mg x2 (daily) MetaPharma Anavar
100mcg (daily) Ultima IGF-LR3
2.5iu (daily) GK HGH

Current condition: So far I’ve lost 8lbs and 0% BF

Feels good to be back on growth after taking 6 weeks off

Saturday (green shirt) I met up with my bro so we could pull his blood for “These are not my BLOODS: Part two”. I also got some basic labs done. Might as well, right? Then we smashed a workout together with no regard for science.

Sunday (yellow shirt)

lundgren's picture

Hello @23Sparta
How are your blood sugar / glycemia with IGF-1 Lr3 and rHGH ?

For this summer i plan the +/- the same dose of test around 125 / 150mg max weekly with little extra first 1-6 weeks IGF-1 Lr3 followed by 7-13 weeks with rHGH 2 ui's daily and depend the blood work i up to 3/4 ui's max daily.

About Anavar / Oxandrolone i never used this, i plan maybe 10mg daily but i'm not sure if it's a great idea to stack this with Primo ?

Nice look my friend, your look like super hero Marvel movie ! lol

Have a blessed Sunday ,
Take Care <3

23Sparta's picture

My bodies glycemic response on that particular stack above has been excellent. I’ve been on HGH for two years and have yet to see any negative impact on my insulin sensitivity (proven through bloods). My understanding is that IGF-1 LR3 improves insulin sensitivity. Metformin is a wonderful medication that improves insulin sensitivity. I’ve spent two weeks checking BG multiple times daily on that stack and I barely crack 100.

Your summer stack sounds great. I personally see no reason not to include anavar with primo. I did so myself and enjoyed it. 10mg daily is a great dose provided what you have is properly dosed. You will experience some nice benefits and any negative impact to your health markers should be negligible. Blessings to you as well

lundgren's picture

Yes i think about Oxandrolone because i tried Stanozolol in the past and it's very agressive on the joints and tendons, that's dry the body like hell.
Stanozolol stimulate a lot the brain too, i used low dose 30mg daily, more focus, the activity cognitive are better too, but for joints and tendons it's very agressive (during the cycle i chained the tendonitis).

It's why i think about Oxandrolone because normally it's "safe" oral if we respect the dose / posologie.
A good old friend with the same level as you used Oxandrolone from script, VERY VERY expensive, he's used 20mg daily and reports some good effect on mind / mood and physical more strenght with better vascularity and pump during the training.

From your side, what effect do you have when your add Oxandrolone in your cycle ? (all sides incluted mentally and physically)

It's very rare to see a cycle like your (Primo / IGF-1 / rHGH / Oxandrolone).

About glycemia, it's strange because depend the lab i have a high a hypoglycemic side with excessive water retention + syndrome canal carpian and another lab i have zero hypo.

"Metformin" it's a medication for diabetic people ?

Thanks here the day start and it's Sunday (^_^)

+1 for your progress / evolution

23Sparta's picture

It is commonly known that Oxandrolone accelerates wound healing for donor graft sites in burn victims. Lesser known, it is also used along side metformin (and other medications) in burn victims for metabolic and nutritional support.

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/102177/cdc_102177_DS1.pdf

It’s the therapeutic qualities of Oxandrolone that interest me and why I use the compound. My personal experience is that at a low dose, I get that DHT alpha feeling, also some slight irritability. Minor issues with connective tissue resolve. My recovery from training is improved. Over time, I’ll notice a slight increase in vascularity.

If you wanted more of the cosmetic and performance benefits, you would have to increase the dosage.

Metformin is a medication given to prevent/treat type 2 diabetes. Although, it has many uses in our sport.

https://www.ospublishers.com/Metformin-and-Exercise-The-Effects-of-Metfo...

lundgren's picture

Here in my country, for this this compound (Oxandrolone) they had stopped the marketing authorization at the end of 80' , from the early 90'.
Few years ago, the government authorized the re-marketing of this treatment, but the prescriptions are regulated and reserved for treating burns in the hospital environment.

Thanks a lot for this constructive conversation and i wish a amazing cycle for this summer and remember to hydrate you well ;-D

Take Care

23Sparta's picture

Yes, true pharmaceutical grade Oxandrolone seems hard to obtain. Although, I have found some very good UGL Anavar.

I appreciate your input and knowledge. Blessings and a productive summer cycle to you as well

lundgren's picture

I think it's because the raw are very very expensive.
Oxandrolone and Methenolone these are definitely the most expensive steroids and surely more safe too <3

Thanks a lot for your kind words,

I plan a cycle like your 1ml of Test and 2ml of Primo and maybe but not sure i try for the first time Oxandrolone 10mg daily and up to 20mg max daily (depend how i react) but TRT with Primo are amazing combo <3

Here it's Monday, i wish a blessed new week to you !
Take Care & Be Safe (and good training if your on day ON)

DeeMan's picture

@lundgren @23Sparta good convo there gentlemen.

23Sparta's picture

Right? That’s how it should go around here, but not always the case

DeeMan's picture

I agree. Not always the case

23Sparta's picture

and that can be annoying af

DeeMan's picture

Haha

23Sparta's picture

You take care too bro, be safe and train well.

Very doubtful you will be disappointed if you have quality Oxandrolone. Let me know how you like it

lundgren's picture

Thanks a lot, i plan this long time ago and i postpone all the time for use Oxandrolone ;-D

Notmelgibson's picture

Love to see it

Sven01's picture

Jeeez looking massive! i wish my muscles popped through me clothes too

23Sparta's picture

lol, you just gotta get the spray on tshirts like I got and believe me, they will

Drexyl's picture

Full beast mode!

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23Sparta's picture

Hell yeah Drex! These dumbbells owe us some money, let’s get it!

DeeMan's picture

I have all the confidence in ya man...go get it!

23Sparta's picture

You too bro. You, me and Drex…. Let’s go!

Drexyl's picture

You’re gaddamn rich that they do. I’ve ramped everything up bro, it’s on, including the workouts. I presently feel like I got into a fight and lost.

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23Sparta's picture

Hell yeah Drex! I love that got hit by a truck feeling. I still haven’t trained since last weekend because me and boys just fucking went balls to the wall. Ima get in there today though

Raith's picture

Lookin fuckin amazing bro

23Sparta's picture

Gracias my man. We gotta represent 44, right?

anvil's picture

Damn youngsters!!

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23Sparta's picture

Just trying to catch up to you OG

Pushing Iron 87's picture

Proper chunky my man that some size your carrying solid work

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23Sparta's picture

Appreciate that

Chad P's picture

Bro you’re built like a rhinoceros

DeeMan's picture

Lmao

Pumped_'s picture

Rhino from Marvel

DeeMan's picture

Youz peanut butter thick too! For his height he's holding it down. @23Sparta yall peenut butter and ramen noodle built. But you still maintained slim gut!

23Sparta's picture

Lmao, I had Mexican ramen on Saturday. Drove 30 minutes to this secret spot to get it. Suuuuper flame

DeeMan's picture

Must of been good to drive 30 for it! I found this Mexican brand that's the best in my opinion. I have to show it to you.

23Sparta's picture

Bro, I’ve been wanting to eat there for months. They actually were supposed to be a goat meat spot, but they said they didn’t serve it. Either way, we ate there and got the Mexican ramen. Bomb af. Then this kid that worked there wrote down the address to where I can get goat meat at. So that’s gonna be the next stop. Yeah lemme know what brand you’re talking about

DeeMan's picture

BIG GUT slim waist I ain't missing a meal!!!! That was on a song.

Anyways yea I'll let you know which brand it is. Put it like this, I've seen a few Mexican restaurants sell it on the side. Tripped me out man.

23Sparta's picture

Bro, I can’t help it, I love to smash. I had that Mexican on Saturday. Then on Sunday I had steak tips, eggs, hash browns and a waffle, two times. That same plate twice. I got an IHOP plug

DeeMan's picture

Haha man you tooo much!
I-Hop plug! I can digg it, you love those Hispanics huh?? Trust me I totally without one damn doubt understand.

23Sparta's picture

Man, being cool and working something out with restaurant workers is in my blood. You gotta think, they sick of that shit but you want it. I just find something that I’m sick of, that they want, and trade them

press1's picture

I thought he was a Thundercat?!!

Pumped_'s picture

Were you a Pantro or Lion-o?

press1's picture

Lion-o oo OOOOOhhhh Lol

Thunder Thunder THUuunder THUNDER CAAAATTSS!!!!!!!

23Sparta's picture

lol, baby rhino

Chad P's picture

You know I mean that in the best way possible. You’re a fucking tank

23Sparta's picture

Naw, hell yeah bro! Tank, Rhino, all of that, that’s the goal when you’re 5’7”! Appreciate that motivation, respect

Ccacc's picture

Respect ..Sparta

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23Sparta's picture

You too bro, you already know, respect

NWApatches's picture

Big

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23Sparta's picture

Back at yuh bro