posted Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:41
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+ 12 firsthgh 10iu Blue Top Serum 19.9
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Tested for firsthgh.
Lets start with the Serum, 19.9, 3hrs and 20mins after 10iu IM injection, right delt!
What is up with the IGF-1? I was trying to get my base level IGF-1.
I figured now was a good time since I have been only on TRT dose Test E for the last 4 weeks and haven't been taking HGH except for these tests! Last one was 2 weeks ago.
I did do a 3 week IGF-1 LR3 run but that was over like 3 weeks ago!
IGF-1 Labs:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/firsthgh-generic-blue-top-igf-1-results
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Man those blue tops look good. Got to be honest i am skeptical. I run pharma and brand name genrics like hyges or rips. The blue and red tops never seem to test good for a long period of time. Good looks on the bloods homie. You do mad shit for us.
I hear you bro, thats why I post the tests. I'm running them for the next 2 weeks then pulling IGF-1 so we'll have more info. Thats one of he things with generics though, no batch #s or anything so you can't tell unless you do tests from time to time.
I agree GFit. So many different compounds being sold in clear vials with a blue (multiple color) top that even if it is neatly marked with a black magic marker, 4IU or 10IU, I still feel iffy in using that product.
Interesting Info.
The "Old Wives Tale" Somatren 192AA is known as "Mimic HGH" It is cheaper and easier to produce than Somatropin pure 191AA.
Protropin was a US manufactured Somatren 192AA. It was shown to produce antibodies in the user making IGF null. When using this product to treat IGF deficiencies, aids patients, etc., this reaction proved to be dangerous and that sequence was discontinued.
The supplier of these two samples stated that they "test" to confirm their product is indeed 191AA Somatropin. The molecular weight is the same in both Somatropin 191AA/Somatren 192AA. So my question is what tests are done to confirm this when the M/W in M/S is approx 22,000 (Dalton). UG,IU,MG,MCG needs to be addressed also. Even at 99% purity, I've seen 10IU labeled bottles severely underdosed with these "generics".
In my opinion a longer test study of the same "batch" for a minimum of 3 months would be more accurate when doing bloodwork (IGF-1)
Cheap AAS powders coming from Asia have been proven time and time again to be inconsistent from M/S and bloodwork by members here. Beings that both manufacturing and packaging (bottling) pure Somatropin 191AA is a complex process, I'd assume that the HGH coming from Asia would be even more inconsistent than the simple AAS powders being produced.
Something to think about:
If a source (Domestic or International) sent out a bottle of Test E to do bloodwork after a minimum of 4 weeks of injecting to prove it's legitimacy, then I'd have to question that product, no?
I for one am not a source pushing any particular product. A more affordable legit HGH 191aa Somatropin would be great. But. I have to look at all aspects of a long-term injected product for my safety.
Again, this is just some critical thinking here and any knowledgeable info is greatly appreciated.
Or you can look at it as I do which is the source wants to know what they are buying and selling before they sell it! The IGF-1 bloods will be up in about 10 days and we'll "know" more instead of guessing what could be and why. As far as sources sending samples to users to test if has been a happening here for years, just recently has it started to include HGH!
Yip. The more testing the better. We all appreciate you taking the time for all the testing that you do. Looking forward to the latest one. Thanks again Brutha Fit.
Regarding the 192aa theory and it causing anti bodies and an issue producing IGF-1. Would I have gotten 465 IGF-1 on the Yellow Hyges if the previous Blues had been 192aa that I ran at 10iu\d? We really need to analyze these topics with an open mind to find the truth. Just like most studies, when you have an outcome you are trying to prove you will only look at ways to prove your theory instead of openly analyzing all the data!
Is there legit HGH 191aa coming out of China? Absolutely. Now, is there a question of purity and consistent dosing? Yes. Even though Chinese HGH isn't my thing, I really think Hyges, especially the black tops, could be a "side project" of GenSci. Meaning that these could be a cheaper alternative to those "Evil Pharma" products!
Also, according to "studies", the antibodies are not permanent and IGF-1 levels go back to "normal" after discontinued use of 192AA.
I think running one of the cheaper blue tops for a period of time all the while doing IGf-1 testing on a monthly basis could possibly answer that question beings that the amount of time it takes a person to develop these so called antibodies varies from person to person. But again, from my past experience of the ole "sausage fingers" with running Blue Tops, I'd just rather not take the time to prove or disprove it. But now YOU my "lab rat" friend....that just might be a good science project although I wouldnt recommend it.
RustyhookerEveryone could just switch to the pharma hgh being made in Venezuela. Lol
Is there really pharmacy hgh coming out of there or am i missing the joke?
Joke Bro!
I didn't want this made public, but I'm having a "special" batch made at 7.25999 IUs per vial. :/ where's MachineK?
I saw that and just let it go! LOL ;-P
You could teach em a thing or two over there GFit. But yes, you are very much correct....pointless to kick the beehive.
I saw some crap on another site about bunk kits and partners...... I got enough shit with my own stuff without jumping in and pissing off another source! LOL ;-P
But it must be nice to have your rips made at any IU you want! LOL ;-P
RustyhookerWith cool labels or blank flip tops?
Lol!
Appreciate the testing big homie. I test my igf every 6 weeks. 5 iu of hyge gets my igf the same as 3.6 iu of nordi. I have even waited 3 days after I take a pin and the igf is the around the same. Good looks again my nikkah. Keep testing. I need to start getting more involved here to bro. Been ghost for a while then all my sites ran out of hyge. Got my some pharmacy now with tax returns but that be killing a nikkahs bank account
What? Thats crazy talk!
Be careful the Pharma Police will be here any second to call you a dirty communist liar! LOL ;-P
Thanks Brother!
I take both pharmacy and trust worthy generics. All I am concerned about is what my IGF-1 is when I test it. Pharmacy gets it higher bottom line. Reliable genrics takes a little more to get the IGF there but it works. I want mine in the 500s so I either run 3.6 of Nordi,sero or I run 5 IU of hyge or rip. There is no magic to it. Blood work always tell the truth.
I hear you, both get the job done! The Pharma Only sources yell, "its not real, the rise is from peptides, the results are faked, you used photoshop, you took 20-30iu to get those numbers." LOL ;-P
Every one of these tests are exactly the way I said I ran them!
Glad to see you are getting good results too!
ProfessorX can have my babies.
ProfessorX +1
Would be nice to have more than one person test before released. I appreciate that gfit test them. But he test for a lot of site so I've seen. Also he takes other stuff that may affect the test results not serum but his igf-1. Who knows maybe serum also. Has me woundering. Only true way to know is test your self. But I defiantly appreciate that you make the effort kigs.
I have actually been off since the last EBC (needed to do Bloods for my DR). Like I said above I did a 3 week run of IGF-1 LR3 3 weeks ago but that is it besides TRT level Test E 1cc\every 2 weeks for the last 3 weeks at the time of test. None of these should have still had my IGF-1 this high as far as I know.
This test was only for the HGH Serum on the Blue tops and this was the first shot of HGH that morning.
The IGF-1 I ran to try to get a baseline since I had been off HGH for like 6 weeks!
He has asked me to test the IGF-1 on these, and I will pull bloods on them in a couple weeks.
It is great that you test this stuff bro. My only concern is since it was in fact a kit sent directly for you with the purpose of testing it kind of leaves things open to manipulation. I am not saying that is what FirstGH is doing but it is within the realm of possibility. Anyone who decides to go with the generic blue tops I would strongly encourage to do immediate serum test, followed by IGF a couple weeks later. The recent times have seen plenty of fake HGH coming out of China. Buyer beware.
270strengthI feel you on that bro!!!
IMO, the purpose of them testing is for them to know they are good before they put them on their site for sale.
If you look at my results page, I have tested a few for them that came up bad. They get posted also.
I understand your concern especially in light of the libelous posts recently against me by another source who only sells "Pharma" and has no understanding of HGH testing protocols or variations from user to user.
I think its good for everyone to test and share their results. Especially IGF-1 so they can adjust their dose!
I understand and I do not disagree at all. I am simply throwing up a word of caution to everyone that wants to use GH, whether it be pharma or Chinese they can still be counterfeit. Always test!
Yes Sir! I should buy stock in Labcorp! LOL ;-P
That ain't a half bad idea, I will have to see if they are publicly traded.
Edit: and they are..http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Laboratory_Corporation_of_America_Holdings_(LH)
AnonAs you can see in my picture catalog, there are more than 20 lab results all from real customers! all confirmed the quality are the same as our samples what get tested before selling!
i feel very sorry that have some sources sell the fakes without any Sense of shame! how can a seller sell the things what themeslves don't use too? how can a seller sell the products what will bad to others? i am sure there are lots of source sell the fakes to people, but what's the feeling of the seller when he know people use the bad products to damage health?
everytime when i heard that have people get fake kits from other source, i feel very Heartache! i can't teach all people how to buy real products, how to make a wise phurchasing, but firsthgh.com will not sell any bad things to others in all my life except it's out of our control!
I know you have made things right when things went wrong. My only point is people need to do tests themselves in these times we are in bro. Nothing against you in particular.
Mr.G, where you bought this blue top?
It was sent to me by firsthgh to test.
Thanks, big guy. These test results are very helpful to many of us. Keep it up, young man! +1
Your welcome! I started editing the main results page to make it easier. I'm putting the results in the description. Almost done, you'll just be able to glance down the list except when 2 products are tested, then you might have to read the post?
http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/gorillafits-hgh-test-resul...
Anonhi sir, good work!
thank you very much.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYour welcome!
Thanks for testing your products, instead of selling whatever, without knowing!
Very nice guess these will be available soon +1
Yea they look good! IDK availability his page is under construction right now.
Good Work Gfit.The results look good.+1
Thanks Bro!
RustyhookerSays high. Can't argue that.
Some people can argue with anything! But then again some people are delusional! LOL ;-P
noob941+1 GFIT you are a true asset to this community in more ways than one thank you brother
Thanks Bro!
AFter some bro's told me that there isn't a blood test for IGF LR3 over on gg;s si..
I did some digging... it would seem that you could test for it with bloods if you specifically look for FREE igf. I believe your test is for IGF attached to receptors. Correct me if i'm wrong gfit.
So in theory igf lr3 should only be in your system for a couple days at a strong enough level to test for.
No clue why your IGF so high. Maybe cause you been testing hgh blues yellows browns. LOL
Maybe you got some super juice !!!
I have only tested IGF-1 a few times now and researching I have not found very much information regarding testing methods as for HGH Serum or Testosterone. I don't see any tests on Labcorp for free IGF-1. It says:
"Somatomedin-C is carried in blood bound to a carrier protein which prolongs its half-life. Its level is therefore more constant than that of growth hormone."
From what I have read is that you need to specifically request the test, and that cant be easy. Testing is really tough where I am. It's got legal loop holes but it makes it expensive.
Since free igf bonds very quickly to receptors it is very difficult to narrow in timing of the test with the dosage of igf lr3. Coupled with almost zero data of peer testing and no clear cut test to order this one will remain in the grey zone for now.
The IGF I just used was def producing what I have read to expect. What I heard about it not effecting internal organ growth(like GH) ends up being bullshit. Supposedly doses above 100mcg/day will bond to your blood rich intestines and create new intestine cells. Your new intestines will grow to full size in 3 month, possibly leaving you bloated. I think I was pushing the limmit on dosage but i only used 3 weeks. Not recommended over 4 weeks in the palumbo protocol.
That's one of the reasons I was posting results with 10iu doses a few months back, because I\we needed more data. There are not many studies out there.
That is why I ran it at 40mcg\d. My next run will include peg MGF!
I think a lot of he info on IGF-1 LR3 is actually old info from IGF-1 that has been modified to include IGF-1 LR3. There are no medical studies I can find on it. The closest thing medical was IPLEX which was IGF-1 with IGFBP-3 included. Not many studies I could find on it though.
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