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Here are my bloods. I’m taking 175 mgs a week of para pharma test e from ug freak split on mon Thursday. Pfizer aromasin 12.5 mgs on mon Thursday from teamroids. Everything looks perfect except I’m not too sure why my monocytes and Eos are flagged high. I have been pretty sick last week just getting over it now. Last injection was Thursday and had bloods pulled Saturday. Like I said I’ve been sick since last Thursday and was sick the day I got my bloods pulled. Granted monocytes and Eos are out of range by .1 maybe someone else can chime in. I’m also on 10mgs of mk677, 10 mgs gw501516 and 7.5 mk2866 from another source. Anyway huge thanks to UG and Teamroids! Any help with those flagged bloods would be much appreciated.

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bigbob's picture

Thanks for sharing +1, your bloodwork looks great. If anything, having high monocytes and eos is a good thing because that means your immune system is working properly.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Thanks for the insight bob I appreciate it. Never seen it before so I freaked out a bit haha.

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professer X's picture

Bloods look awesome. Healthy as a horse. High test as,well... the monicyte bieng high makes perfect sence if u said you had been sick. Other than thst everything is in perfect range....!! Way to be on top of your health. That is key

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Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Thanks professor I appreciate it. Ya that’s what I’ve kinda been leaning to it being due to my sickness. Gonna get bloods when I’m already just to be sure. I take my health very seriously as we all should. Thanks bro stay healthy too.

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DfromPhilly's picture

Nice numbers, boss! I wouldn’t sweat the two high flags too much. Run another round after you’ve been healthy and feeling better for a couple of weeks before you worry.

Both of the red flags are blood cells that your body makes to fight infections. You were sick, so your body made a little more than normal to help out and get you better.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/blood-work-bible...

They’re barely out of range anyway. +2

More surprised your bun is low, but I’m guessing you weren’t getting much protein while you were sick?

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Ah just read low bun/creatinine could be caused by periods of illness. Anyway thanks again bro definitely put my mind more at ease for now. I take my bloods very seriously and freak out if anything unusual shows up.

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Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Thanks philly! I’ll definitely get some bloods taken when I’m better and see. I was wondering why my bun ratio was low. But now that I think of it I wasn’t eating too much since I was throwing up and sick. Hopefully everything comes back normal when I’m better. I’ll have to give that a read and do some more research on why my bun was low. Maybe it could be something to do with me being sick too? Anyway thanks again brotha I appreciate the help and info.

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getthemgains's picture

I bet if you weren't on the sarms your serum test would be wayyy higher... Not that thats a bad thing since I can imagine your free T is through the roof. Mk2866 lowers shbg in dose dependent manner so a lot more of your serum t becomes free to work its magic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3177038/

DfromPhilly's picture

Why would his serum test be higher if he wasn’t on sarms? Also let’s remember he’s only on one sarm at a very low dose, and using exogenous testosterone.

Just having a hard time understanding how a sarm will lower the amount of exogenous testosterone...

getthemgains's picture

Serum testosterone is testosterone that is bound to other biomolecules such as shbg or albumin. If your shbg goes lower, less t is bound and more of it is free, so your serum t goes down while free t goes up. It seems counterintuitive that serum T falls with decreasing shbg, but serum t generally isn't the good stuff, its that free t that works its magic on the receptors.

You'll actually see on alot of the blood tests posted on eroids with people on high doses of anabolic steroids and proviron/aromasin, where their serum test doesnt match the doses theyre on, but yet their free T is through the roof.

The sarm isn't lowering his serum T, its lowering his shbg which allows more of the serum T to become free T

Last thing. Sarms destroy shbg, I have no idea how or why but they completely eviscerate it even at the low doses used during the research studies. For example Lgd reduces shbg by 61% at 1mg/day while ostarine does it by, I think, 50% at 3mg per day, whereas high dose anabolics generally only decreases it by 30ish%

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I get that you’re talking about sarms lowering shbg. I haven’t seen the research but a lot of things do so it’s not surprising. However serum testosterone is total testosterone. Both bound and unbound. The number doesn’t change if more is free/unbound. It’s just the total overall number.

I at least get where you were coming from though. Thanks for the info on shbg I’ll check it out.

getthemgains's picture

Cheers for that, would have went on thinking they were two separate things altogether! Definitely noticing a trend throughout a lot of forums and this one ofc, with low shbg and lower than expected test levels though. Possibly due to free T getting used up and pissed out quicker..

DfromPhilly's picture

That is an interesting trend. I’ll have to look into that too

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

That’s interesting thanks for the info. I’ll give that a read when I get to work. Thanks again bro I’ve never even thought or heard of that

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Makwa's picture

Good numbers

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Thanks makwa!

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T_luva's picture

NICE!!!!!!! I'm an old TRT guy and love running a low dose SARM with my 150 test per week. I cant remember where I got it, but it was 15mgs of Ostarine + 7.5mgs of Ligandrol.... Loved it!!!!

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Nice bro I’m right there with you. No need for high doses for me and I’m still growing!

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GrowMore's picture

Nice bro, everything I’ve tries for para pharma and UGF has been bang on point. Thanks for uploading

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Armwrestlingfiend's picture

No problem bro thank you. I’ve never had any para gear that wasn’t on point really surprised how good these ug labs are.

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GrowMore's picture

I agree mate, these big boy UGL’s are pumping out well dosed gear and making decent money. Why rip people off once when you can work with the customer and make more money long term.

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wildwill3cc's picture

10 mgs of mk677 is very low dose

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

It works perfect for me. Plus it makes me have a ferocious appetite so I wouldn’t even want to try more. Also, 20 is the max you would ever need.

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juiceball8082's picture

Always wondered what's the difference with absolutes? Cause the one's non labled absolutes are normal.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Not too sure either. I’m pretty sure it’s because I’ve been sick but was hoping someone had the same thing to see if they knew what it could be. A bit of googling leads me to believe it’s probably elevated due to me fighting off some kind of virus that has me sick. I’ll get some bloods again in a few weeks to see if it’s gotten better or worse.

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MegaT883's picture

Since you mentioned you were sick Monocytes are doing their job. Think of them as little packmen eating up pathogens. They are the garbage man. EOS can be from allergies. Both can elevate from inflammation. Minor elevations not a biggy. Me personally I almost always have elevated EOS and it's from allerges.

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Armwrestlingfiend's picture

That’s awesome info mega thank you a lot! And it’s good to hear someone else’s opinion with experience first hand. I’ve never seen it before on my bloodwork so I got a lil paranoid ya know? Haha thanks again bro I really appreciate it

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juiceball8082's picture

I'm sure it was, but maybe someone will chime in.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

That’s what I’m hoping. I’m sure someone else has had to deal wit it. But I’m
Not even sure .1 over the limit is anything to worry about.

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juiceball8082's picture

I doubt it and all labs have different ref ranges. .1 of a whole point isnt anything that screams out.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Ya that’s what I’m thinking juice. I’ll get some more bloods when I’m over this sickness to be sure.

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juiceball8082's picture

I would and I'm sure that's the cause. My white blood cells we're .2 under and it was a med I was on. Retested and didn't take the med 24hrs prior to labs and back to normal. We're you on antibiotics while sick?

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Oh that’s pretty cool at least you know what it was. No I just get through the sickness unless I really need something for it. Only thing different this time is all the sarms. Maybe I’ll stop those a few days before I take bloods again and see.

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juiceball8082's picture

Yeah at least 24hrs prior. Mine was from cymbalta which I stopped taking. Another time was from antibiotic.

Armwrestlingfiend's picture

Sounds like a good plan bro I’ll give it a go and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions much appreciated

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juiceball8082's picture

Anytime bro